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Navy Frigates?
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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#1 - 2013-10-23 17:10:03 UTC  |  Edited by: Thaddeus Eggeras
Question CCP why are their 2 different navy cruisers and navy battleships for each race but only one navy frigate for each race? Doesn't make a whole lot of since. Let's go CCP and get a new navy frigate for each race. Who's with me?
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-10-23 17:19:41 UTC
There is already too many ships.

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Zarnak Wulf
Task Force 641
Empyrean Edict
#3 - 2013-10-23 17:27:15 UTC
Way too many frigs. Faction destroyers or dreads I could get behind though.
Rekkr Nordgard
Steelforge Heavy Industries
#4 - 2013-10-23 17:28:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Rekkr Nordgard
Thaddeus Eggeras wrote:
Question CCP why are their 2 different navy cruisers and navy battleships for each race but only one navy frigate for each race? Doesn't make a whole lot of since. Let's go CCP and get a new navy frigate for each race. Who's with me?


As an active participant in faction warfare where navy frigs see regular use, I support this idea and/or product.

Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Way too many frigs. Faction destroyers or dreads I could get behind though.


oooooohhhhh, I like that, yes to navy dessies.
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#5 - 2013-10-23 17:34:53 UTC
There does need to be navy destroyers like they did with battlecruisers, but they do need to make another navy frigate for each race, and made pirate battlecruisers and/or priate destroyers.

Too many ships? There can NEVER be too many ships. slap yourself!
Battle BV Master
Bacon Never Dies
#6 - 2013-10-23 17:41:59 UTC
The new SOE ships will add another frig and cruiser. Dessies are always overlooked. Faction/Pirate dessies before anything else I'd say at this point in time...
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#7 - 2013-10-23 17:57:19 UTC
I'm going with another navy frigate for each race and pirate destroyer for each pirate race able to fly.
Garviel Tarrant
Beyond Divinity Inc
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2013-10-23 18:10:51 UTC
I'd dig another line of faction frigs.

Could be half AF half T1 like the current ones are half inti half T1

would be cool.


Faction dessies i could also get behind. Fast ones! (Make sure that none of them can fit lml's though)

BYDI recruitment closed-ish

Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#9 - 2013-10-23 18:33:30 UTC
I like that fnavy frigate that is between AF and T1, good idea!
UmbraIra
Ridley's Roughnecks
#10 - 2013-10-23 21:07:12 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
There is already too many ships.


There can never be too many ships
Ginger Barbarella
#11 - 2013-10-23 21:33:13 UTC
Zarnak Wulf wrote:
Way too many frigs. Faction destroyers or dreads I could get behind though.


Faction dessies would be sooo much win... Twisted

"Blow it all on Quafe and strippers." --- Sorlac
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#12 - 2013-10-23 23:02:30 UTC
UmbraIra wrote:
Caleidascope wrote:
There is already too many ships.


There can never be too many ships

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM59Yw1vYvA

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
Humang
Sudden Buggery
Sending Thots And Players
#13 - 2013-10-24 05:52:29 UTC
Give me a Navy Merlin and I would fly nothing else.

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ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-10-24 07:54:45 UTC
Battle BV Master wrote:
Dessies are always overlooked...


Straight Really? ... the 4 new ones we recently got was an overlook?

No Worries
lollerwaffle
Tribal Liberation Force
Minmatar Republic
#15 - 2013-10-24 09:55:36 UTC
On the plus side, Navy frigs have their own unique ship models, unlike cruisers and up, which are basically reskins.
Berluth Luthian
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-10-24 17:28:27 UTC
What niche would you put faction destroyers in?

Destroyers are used in a lot of different ways. They are a quick and efficient jump in DPS for missioners. They are a nice cheap long range kitey alpha counter to shiney cruiser roams for FW.

What if you made them THE planetary bombardment ship with a little bit of versitility buff to their turrets. So none of them would be missile ships.

-Maybe give hybrids/projectiles a significant ammo reload reduction (bombardment role bonus).
-Reduce their sig radii by a bit.
-Increase their electronics base stats.
-Remove hybrid/projectile damage bonus to destroyers while leaving remaining optimal/tracking bonuses.
-add a capacitor reduction to racial EWAR modules (no strength increase though).

Basically they wouldn't fit tackle mods but more be a sort of support destroyer, or an anti-support destroyer.
Bienator II
madmen of the skies
#17 - 2013-10-24 17:40:44 UTC
they haven't even rebalanced pirate faction frigs yet. Adding new stuff without fixing old is just twice the work later.

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Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#18 - 2013-10-24 19:57:19 UTC
The patch after Rubicon is going to rebalance all faction ships, I bet CCP is also planning on bring out a new faction ship too. I'd like to see that as a new navy frigate, and maybe a huge new pirate line"Thukker ship". They just did SOE Amarr/Gal, so Thukker could be Cald/Min. Just an idea but would be great to see, and it's the only hole left to fill with the pirate faction (Cald/Min). Fast like min with shield boost bonus, and maybe missile bonues for Cald, and role bonuses be like the Worm, Gila, RS role bonuses.

Role 50% to velocity of missiles
Cald 5% bonus to Missile Launcher rate of fire per level
Min 7.5% bonus to shield boost amount

And be around the speed of Navy stabber

Just an idea.
GordonO
BURN EDEN
#19 - 2013-10-24 20:34:18 UTC
I think the lack of a pirate faction cruiser and Battleship bonused for missiles should be addressed first. This should have been done before adding the SOE ships.

... What next ??
Thaddeus Eggeras
Urkrathos Corp
#20 - 2013-10-24 20:36:33 UTC
Gordon I agree

Thukker priates ships with missiles LONG over do!!!!
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