Player Features and Ideas Discussion

I think this would be a very nice feature :
Overview windows should be working like the others on the "tab" level :
If you have N tab with alternate overview settings, you could just split them into seperated windows. reciprocally, separated overview windows could be merged in one widonw with tabs. Each window may have its own sorting criteria.

Why I think it would be a must have :
Overview readability is capital : Put everything you need, and you get a confusing list of friend, foe, or random-space-objects. Manage different filters on multiple tab, and you have to switch from on tab to another, when sometimes you want to see simoultaneously ordered but different kind of information.
Overview clicking is also critical, especialy in combat situation. To lock a target (sometimes a matter of fraction of seconds), to warp out of danger, to directionnal scan multiple beacons, gate and other warpable... Cliking a huge list with different nature of items may be tricky, even if the sorting is freezed while the mouse is over.
So... Giving a user the opportunity to have multiple overview windows, with alternate settings would solve most of those issues :
- The capsuleur may configure, organize and hierachise (by size and position) the different windows, managing different kind of information.
- This allow a clean display and easy clickable items while reducing the risk of miss click.
- it is 100% reversible. User can still maintain one only window, for a similar behavior as it works now.

Why I think it would be totallly doable :
It's already working that way to most tab windows.
I think it would be a 100% UI / 100% client side feature, since information from server to user would remain the same.

Exemple of what would allow this feature (among many others)
Every Capsuler could have a dedicated window with warpable only, to facilitate navigation.
PVPer would have distinct window in big fleet management to sort ennemy ships that are a threat (inties, long range DPS) versus potential targets (ennemy support, remotable friendlies for exemple).
Miners would a windows of minable, potential threats, and those good friend like hauler, miners, and capital industrials...
and many more i can't think of but the system will allow...
PVEer could have targets on a side, and salvageable, loots and others on another window.

Actually, I don't understand why this feat' is not already working, considering the tab managment for all other windows already works that way and seems to be native to the EVE UI. It may be a technical limitation making this difficult to implement, but I cant' figure out what could it be. So please, just push the "activate-this-amazing-feature" button for rubicon. :)

You had my curiosity, but now you have my attention !

+1 for this über great feature

+1 for multiple overview windows.
Let's unstack those tabs.

Until now, it's a 100% support.

So I guess it's more a matter of feasibility ?

Any blue poster to clarify this ? I'm surprised this subject never came up, as I did a little digging whithout finding anything.

Would be great! +1

I extended my digging, it appears you're right.

I even found this : http://eve-search.com/thread/1460006-0
CMS prompted to update UI, uncluding the "multiple overviews" from Early 2011. Can't find a single good reason why this subject is so vaslty ignored.

i already use multiple overviews with a filtered list of different objects / hostiles / friendlies in space, but i get where you're coming from that switching tabs can seem unnecessary.

quick question though, what overview, of the several that would theoretically be open in different windows, controls the brackets in space? it cant be all of them and it cant be the active window cause theyd all be active at the same time.

also i would note that the overview code is still ancient legacy code and if you think of the areas of the game it directly entangles itself in you'll notice that theyre the parts that barely if ever get any overhaul on (UI or mechanically) and thats because its old, its complex, no one wrote down how the system operates, and the people who coded it arent at CCP anymore.

i think someone needs to point Veritas' talents of re-coding curiosity at it and let him go to town!