Test Server Feedback

As i've been eagerly awaiting for these lovely little guys to appear on SiSi, i tested these as soon as they were seeded

The Goods.

1. Quick Anchoring Time
2. Cheap and No Skills to Anchor.
3. Good Effective Health

1. 20 Seconds to Anchor, which is awesome for a small deploy-able and does not have an online time.

2. This allows access to newer plays to try a different life style of warfare. Christ id love to be a 20 day old character again and start robbing PL's moons.

Example : One Siphon unit of a Neodymium moon equates to 1,916,406 ISK (Current Tranq Jita Price)
Per Cycle this would take 5 hours for the siphon unit to pay for it self and start making a profit. this is awesome.

So say the owner of the tower did not check it for a week

At 1,916,406 per hour (54 Units , 6 Were wasted)

45,663,744 Per Day

321,956,208 Per Week. (Thats amazing...)

Providing no issues such as someone else stealing the Goo. or the siphon unit being destroyed.

3. If the POS is armed this stops 3rd party's killing your siphon units with medium sized ships due to its large structure buffer.

The Bads. (In my opinion)

1. There too small.
2. The m3 of the contents are displayed when mouse hovered
3. Siphon does not make it clear which moon harvester its targeting (if there's 2 Harvesters)

1. Personally i think there too small. all frigates will be able to carry one. i wouldn't mind them being pumped to to 100m3+ (200m3 is my ideal size) so you would either have to sacrifice fitting or use an exploration ship such as a heron or a probe

2. There contents are visible even outside of looking range, you take no risk and its quite easy to tell whats inside. if you were within a certain range of the unit that would seem more appropriate. at its current state you can see how much goo is inside even if your 400km away from it.

3. If there POS has 2 harvesting units, you don't know which goo your targeting nor does the siphon unit tell you. i tested this with a Neo and Mercury Setup, now because i anchored and started the Neo harvester first it stole from that one and not the mercury one. i do agree you don't have alot of time to configure one to target a specific harvester but you should have the choice.

Bugs

1. They Currently have no error message for deploying them outside of tower control range.
2. If you open the cargo through the selected items window on the overview it does not display the loot inside
3. The Generated Killmail does not list if anything was dropped or destroyed

1, Message: 'CantDeployTooFarFromControlTower'
Args: {'maxDistance': 50000.0}

Suggestions

• Also i think it would be for the greater good if the wastage factor was a variable instead of a flat 10% so it would randomly waste between 10 and 20% of its content it stole

Things to Know about them.

• They Generate Killmaills (Intended?)
• Currently owned by the corporation so they have a corp ticket (This is not intended)
• You cannot put stuff inside them
• They take 30 seconds to activate from launch (Will be reduced to 5.)
• They always drop loot. (Needs confirming!)
• Other Siphon units cannot be deployed within 5000m of each other
• They oddly come up with the error " You cannot anchor this within 30km of a control tower" if you try to online them within the POS Shield

They're for sale in any seeded system under 'Ship Equipment > Deployable Equipment > Mobile Siphon Units'.

Use an out-of-corp alt.

Paradox, having day 1 biomass alts deploy these things are bad.

require anchoring level 1 or level 4 at a minimum to deploy it (yes I know they don't need anchoring, but should require the skill to at least deploy it).

This would also remove any possible trial account abuse in deploying these.

I have to say I really enjoy the model of the Siphon unit. One of the best looking structures to date.

I think that stats are quite spot on for the small unit at least.

Are there even any POS's on the Test server for us to try this out on? I though sisi didn't have any? Or de we have to build one ourselves and then have a friend test the unit out?

Suggestion. If for whatever reason the siphon units get a rare faction version, and that faction happens to be rogue drones, can you name it "(size) siphon unit X-W1F3" ..??

Why? Eve is a game where there shouldn't be consequences to what you do.

I think I have stumbled upon a bug with the siphons. I have dropped 9 at once on a mining tower. The tower has nothing but a single miner linked to a single silo. Both the miner and the silo are online and correctly linked together. But the moongoo just seems to vanish - it doesn't go in the silo, and it doesn't go in any of the siphons. This has been happening for 3 POS ticks (3 hours) so far.

Yes, I fly to each siphon manually, right-click them in space and select open cargo. I got one siphon working as intended before, so this is not an UI error.

If GMs/devs want to check, the tower is in HLW-HP at P6 M8. I'll leave it set up as it is for a while.

I was playing around with various reactors, silos and miners setups before encountering this problem, so it's possible something got messed up along the way. Tomorrow I will set up a new POS from scratch and try to duplicate the issue.

Well you can't anchor reactors or moon harvesters in 0.4 so as there are no modules you can use them on why should you be able to deploy them?