Player Features and Ideas Discussion

If you care enough to work out how long it will take then don't go AFK. Developer time can be better spent on content for the Active Player not the bone-idle cant-be-arsed-flying AFKer who will be doing more fun things than checking on their AP ship. If they aren't then they shouldn't have gone AFK in the first place.

Freighter hauling is boring by it's nature so either 1) Don't be a freighter pilot or 2) HTFU and deal with the boredom if it's location move.

No to improving AFK life.

I just wanted to pick this out specifically. I see this a lot, and it always make me wonder if you actually give this much though. You realise that freighters are the backbone of the entire game right? Without hauling, there would be no industry, as generally where minerals are mined is not where the manufacture is needed. If industry broke down, you would not be able to play, as EVE doesn't seed the market with most items, players make them.
Just because you don't like a particular activity, doesn't make it pointless. Now freighters are boring, as CCP make them slow as hell, with nothing to do while hauling, and don't even give you the luxury of fitting choice. If CCP are unwilling to make freighting less boring, then it has to be made more predictable, surely. I know to the second when my research queues finish for example.

Personally though, I think they should make freighting more fun somehow, rather than making it easier to AFK.

Ah Lucas Kell, well well well. I wonder if you gave your reply much thought (spelt correctly ). Freighters aren't the "backbone" as far as I see them but that could be because when I started there weren't freighters, nor barges, we mined in Probes and hauled in Mammoths. We formed local mining parties because there were only <>7K people on at once.

Please don't try and tell me how EVE industry works, I think I've grasped at least the very basics over the last 9.9 years of playing. Troll on sunshine.

I was banging out my reply over the last 5 minutes of lunchtime so probably didn't think of other scenarios except the one the OP suggested.

I know for sure that anyone in an Incursion fleet should, I say should, never AP to staging but it does happen.

To your point above, very well presented and I could see how that would be of use. Now if I may take your idea one step further and perhaps even suggest that the information based on the calculation could be included in the Fleet window for the FC\Wing Cmdr\Sqd Cmdr to view who is en-route etc would that be a useful addition (see this thread for improving the Fleet UI (not my thread BTW.))

I know we sometimes have pilots accept fleet who are 15 jumps out and it's not acceptable but they keep saying "only a few jumps out" etc. If not the full Fleet then perhaps the Watch List functionality?

Too obvious, need to be more subtle...ETSE = Estimated Time to Something Exciting

On this note i feel that if afk freighters get a tool to tell them when to return then autopilot should also show display this number and their destination to ships on grid with them. This would be a very fair and balanced system and aid logistics for a fair number of people

Youre telling me that the loss of a billion+ ISK freighter isn't worth warping to 0 in because it requires extra attention?

My god. If freighter pilots are this apathetic, they deserve what they get.

CCP, remove CONCORD response to freighter ganks, they just aren't worth saving anymore.

My understanding is that the changes will make warp times vary more between ship types, small ships will be in warp less, big ships more. So freighters are the slowest and they will get slower.

1) I didn't say everything or mention automatically but I did explicitly say Industry (highlighted for your lack of reading ability).

2) If Freighters were removed trading hubs would still be stocked believe me but I can move with the times and have or I wouldn't still be around.

I've used Red Frog (an awesome service I have to say) and have no issues with Freighters in general. I do have issues with anything that tells people when they should return to there computer to begin playing again though. For instance the idea for an AFK Travelling skill to reduce the distance from 15km to 5km when on AP and AFK. Just no. However, you might note above that I was convinced by someones suggestion that this could be useful for fleet and I agreed and added to that idea.

Thus I have added content and constructive criticism to the thread and possible expanded on the OP's idea, exactly what the forums are for. You on the other hand have done nothing but troll and misread what someone has said.

Troll on out the door if you please as I'm not feeding you anymore.

OK, let's get this back on topic as you raise some good points above. I've broken them down to make it easier to reply:

1) Thank god, I would question your sanity if you did

2) Manufacturing is a passive element to the game in that you load the job and of it goes and needs to have an ETA. If you have multiple jobs in multiples Stations\POS's\Outposts then it would be hard to manage. The ETA posted is probably from the "Time Till Available" value that is shown when you look for a slot and it tells you you have ot wait 4 months for a slot. Therby you can't comparing an active task to a passive one I don't think.

Freighter piloting isn't a passive activity, you ARE piloting a starship in space and cannot pilot more than one at any one time (not talking ISBoxer or multi-accounts here). You could use a jump time calculator like this one EVE Online Autopilot ETA Calculator as a lot of things are available out of game which aren't required\needed\top priority in game.

Personally I've abused Excel so much for EVE things that I now use those skills in my job and it's worked out advantageous.

The thing is that things that do NEED an ETA\Timer such as Cooldown Timers on modules (MJD, Cloak, etc) don't have them and PI doesn't have a "Extractors End" time so this shouldn't be given top priority IMO. I use an online stop watch\countdown timer for modules (this should be a higher priority) and Excel for PI\Manufacturing\BP Profitability etc (these few aren't needed primarily in game or as a top priority but would be awesome QoL enhancements.)

I hope that helps to give you something to think about and come back on.