Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Having flown quite a few Battlecruisers, it seems like they're all somewhat anemic when it comes to DPS. These are technically "light" battleships, but they often do little more damage than a comparable Cruiser (not including Strategic Cruisers). The Attack Battlecruisers are basically like "pocket battleships", with the power of a battleship - but trading hull and armor for speed and maneuverability.

So my suggestion for Battlecruisers is relatively simple: extend them a 50% CPU and powergrid reduction for large weapon systems (no additional capacitor). This would allow for maybe 2-3 additional turrets or launchers, and would come at the expense of other considerations. Battlecruisers would still have the ability to deal with cruiser-sized threats while still able to hold their own against battleships (not a contest they'd win, but maybe one they could survive long enough to extract themselves from).

I'd also like to personally see the Naga converted to a missile platform, but that's just me. Pirate Battlecruisers would be cool, too.

I didn't say defeat, I said hold their own. Quite obviously with their larger tank and more extensive array of weapons, Battleships would still come out on top in any engagement. However, allowing Battlecruisers to run say 2 large turrets or launchers doesn't overly tip the balance, either. Don't forget that the Attack Battlecruisers sport eight (8) large weapon systems, and I'm only suggesting maybe 2 on standard Battlecruisers and up to 4 on Faction Battlecruisers.

I have the feeling you've never dealt with Brutixes.

Drake vs caracal 700dps to 500dps ish
Harbinger vs maller 750 -850 dps to 500 dps ish
etc...etc.... that doesn't even include ABC's doing 1200dps potentially...

If you give the BCs the extra grid, cpu, and (in some cases) cap to be able to mount a couple of BS-size weapons, what makes you think people are going to actually use it for them?

It'll be used for extra tank, dual prop, or even a large neut. BCs will be overpowered by miles.

It seems you want all BC's to be able to do what the assault BCs can.
I don't see the reason for that, really. Assault BCs are "unique" in that they use oversized weapons and have bonuses for it, but you would most likely not have a Hurricane do the same as a Tornado, unless you also give the Cane full oversized bonuses.
Why should you take the uniqueness away fron ABCs?

And if you don't give the Cane oversized bonuses (And only the bonus to fitting - so it can fit unbonused oversized weapons) why should anyone do that? Your bonused weapons will be better, and splitting weapons is somewhat the opposite of smart.
This is of course without even going full into any balance aspects.

Although I would like the navy-feel with having a number of different sized guns. 8x1400mm, and 10x425mm, and 25x250mm, and 15x75mm would be more like the range of weaponsizes battleships use in an industrial or postindustrial world. If they are comparable to what a space-fleet would use is a question still. :P
Now I get why CCP hasn't done that for simplicitys sake, so meh.

Well, the historical example of battlecruisers is true, they sported much larger weapons than their hullsize would traditionally suggest. That's not what EVE BCs do though, here Battlecruiser is a size-category and not by necessity also the "style".
But what you suggest is not used in EVE, and for good reasons.

You will often see people made fun of if they try to fit both ACs and Arty on their Minmatar hulls. If you fit 4 blasters and 4 rails on your rokh, you're probably dumb. There aren't any viable fit that sports both beams and pulses. If your Megathron is fitted with 2 meta 1, 2 meta 2 and 3 meta 4 blasters you need help.

I can't see how your idea is any different. You might see projectiles on otherwise unbonused hulls (Like a few projectiles on a Dominix), since they don't use cap and can add a little extra dps or versatility, but if you'd base a doctrine on unbonused weapons on a hull .....

The "good reason" you refer to is that battles tend to favor specialization and numbers. So even a small gang of roving frigates can defeat a battlecruiser, which is entirely unrealistic. It's a trend that's been moving more and more towards favoring smaller ships, and Rubicon isn't going to be any different. But I digress...

I would much rather see "generic" bonuses for hulls as opposed to specific light, medium, large or even weapon-specific bonuses so that we'd see a much wider variety in layouts and configurations.

To be honest, the med turret BCs are actually Heavy Cruisers.
Only the Lg turret BCs are true BCs, in the classical sense.

In classical sense of a fictional space ship game set 30,000 years from now. Of course.