EVE General Discussion

i vote a similar minigame be implemented for mining.

They also said they were planning to expand on the hacking game, possibly making the stuff you get during the game useable in other sites, I can see shielding bonus mods becoming very high in demand, making this an even more interesting setup.

Yeah, I can think of several things where adding a mini-game would definately give the game a bit of character to it.

Mining - It's a boring task, but having done some mining, I know it is nice to have a semi-afk task in Eve where you can feel somewhat productive. Still, I would think that a mini-game here that would give the player a boost to what is mined would be pretty cool.

Siphons - I think this is a place where Hacking skills and a mini-game should determine how efficient the Siphon is, or how detectable (either-or, not both) the Siphon is.

PI, Manufacturing, etc. I know there are some good ideas floating around in CCP, would be nice to see if they have actual plans above just wishing and hoping.

The mini game is ****, I hope it dies in a fire. I certainly don't want it expanded to other parts of the game as it spoiled exploration for me.

The way ccp are going they wont be happy until they've simplified every aspect of the game and replaced character skills with player skills and dumbed down the game to the point we can play it on a console with a game pad with our 'spaceship piloting' skill.

Make Falcon pilots play a mini-game on their target's sensors.

Edit: Off topic part removed, CCP Phantom

The loot scattering mechanic maybe wasn't that bad as a concept, but its replayable value is zill and I don't think that nobody is going to miss seeing it elsewhere.

Please for the love of all that's holy get rid of loot spew.

I beg of you.

CCP Bayesian thanks very much for replying in this thread, I hope you are still monitoring it. As you know in my previous post I was highly critical of the hacking mini game and I remain so, but I hope to respectfully explain why I feel so strongly about what is ultimately just a game mechanic.

For me the mini-game feels artificial, it feels like it's layered on top of eve and not actually a part of it, that may be because it's different in terms of styling to other UI elements, also I find it irritating because when I play eve I actually want to play eve, not a browser based game within eve. It's like logging in to the captains quarters to watch Net Flicks on the big screen. It's immersion breaking and as such it's like hitting a brick wall within the game when you are travelling at 100 miles an hour of immersion and here's why.

In eve we all have character skills whilst we the players direct our characters to perform actions for us in the eve universe, so we don't plot courses our characters do, we direct PI operations and deploy extractors, our characters do the drilling and manage the supply chain with the immense power of their post human cybernetically enhanced minds. I the player do not work out firing solutions for my character's guns, neither do I the player decide when my missiles detonate, my character does all of that for me in the world of eve.

With the mini game suddenly I the player am presented with something that my character could easily do and should be doing which is why the mini game is very un-eve... Capsuleers can manage spaceship command with the power of their minds, the mind gives orders and the capsule interface streams those orders into commands for the crew to follow whilst ship subroutines take care of the more mundane stuff allowing us capsuleers to concentrate on the big picture. With a mind as hierarchically organised as this, the eve thing to do would be to hack the cans with the power of thought, simply expressing a desire to hack a can whilst sitting back as our capsuler/ship interface streams those thoughts into hacking algorithms that combined with some slave AI would be more than enough to crack the hacking interface of most things encountered in the depths of space. This means that we should either be able to hack the can or not dependent on our level of skill vs some random chance. That's how other mechanics work in eve and it works well.

In summary it breeches the player/character divide and that's why I don't like it and would lose interest in a game that has more of this. What's the point of training character skills if I the player have to do all of the work.

That's not to say that in some situations it could be entertaining to have a mini game such as walking in stations and visiting a casino and trying to win some isk by playing games of chance and skill but the context of a character in a sci fi universe having some downtime well away from the capsule/ship interface would support immersion, not break it.

Anyhow I do appreciate the hard work that you guys put into a game like eve which is why I felt it was fair to give you this wall of text with some honest feedback.

If that means that soon we will be able to hack abandoned POSs to unanchor them...or do unscrupulous things to stations, I will be getting a sex change ASAP in order to have your babies.

"CCP is dumbing down Eve!"

Complains about a minigame that takes actual active player skill and strategy where it used to be just passive chance based and was completely fire-and-forget.