Ships & Modules

Just wondering what the fastest L4 mission runner is. I litterally just bought a CNR and this is i think the best fitup i can manage.

[HIGH SLOT]
7x Arbalest Cruise Launcher I
1x prototype Arbalest rapid light launcher I

[MED SLOT]
Adaptive Invul Field II
2x mission specific hardners T2's
Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
2x Shield Boost Amplifier I
Prototype 100mn MWD I

[LOW SLOT]
3x Caldari Navy Ballistic Control
2x Power diagnostic system II

[RIGS]
2x Large warhead rigor catalyst I
Large warhead flare catalyst I

[DRONES]
5x Hobgoblin II
5x Hammerhead II
1x berserker I

Using Scourge Missiles i have a whopping 393.6 dps and 100.1 drone dps
This leaves me with 3606 PG and 39 CPU. Cap seems to be ok as long as i give a small pause between groups when possible to let it recharge slightly.


I'm working on the skills to use t2 shield boost amps, booster and t2 launchers. I've only run 1 L4 with it so far (unauthorized military presence iirc) and it was really easy, but i know some of them can be a bit rougher.

If there is a better way to make my CNR faster or even a better option for a ship then please, thoughts and suggestions are welcome :)

Under absolutely no circumstances should you not fit a full 8 cruise launchers. You must fit 8. Do not deviate from this. If you're low on CPU, there's plenty of CPU savings to be had by changing one of your mission specific hardeners to dread gurista or caldari navy (like 20-30m, big cpu savings, same performance as t2).

you're leaving a lot of DPS on the field if those are the numbers you're getting. need cruise missiles 4, caldari battleship 4, missile support skills to 4 ASAP.

You're probably better off with a third mission specific hardener in place of a second SBA.

You might try an afterburner instead of a MWD, it doesn't hurt your tank as much, you have very long range. Also, its not like you're going to kill a whole room before you can get to the gate anyway. If you want the MWD to get away from rats (i don't think this is the case as you're very tanked), then you should consider a MJD.

the single berserker i does nothing for you. Bring a flight of salvage drones or extra hobs/hammers.

ok with 8 Cruises fit i have 17 CPU left and 2206 PG. Brings my launcher dps up to 425.6 I could probably buy faction ammo to boost this a bit...but thats going to kill profits from missions a bit.

I have the skills you mentioned training now...the longest being l4 caldari battleships....5 days.

Main reason for MWD instead of AB is just speed. I'd like to be able to get through these as quickly as possible....and i thought i read somewhere that after one of the last updates that mwd doesn't effect...or doesn't have as much effect on sig radius on raven anymore....might be wrong.

IMO

8 x cruise launchers

I would drop the MWD for an AB due to the cap penalty you get off MWD's


I would fit an X-Large shield booster and drop 1 x shield boost AMP

in the amp spot you dropped I would fit Target painter

I would fit 4 x BC's and if you can depending on you cpu and PG fit a DCU will give you a bit mire tank

in the rigs I run cap control circuits x3 just so the cap recharge is faster so you can use shield booster more often.

also Hobgoblins are your friend

note.. using a Shield booster don't boost to full shields once your shields get to 1/3 boost up to between 2/3's and 3/4 shields this maximizes the increased shield recharge rate.

Disclaimer

I am in Vegas at minute so can't run this build through EFT but pretty sure it's close to my fit off top if my head.

Looks like a sweet build to aim for but i don't have the skills yet to even come close

- lvl3s can be moderately profitable if you have good skills. there was a thread in M&C just recently where the OP showed some numbers that came together to ~50m/hour. depending on your skills etc. it may be better to just grind up lvl3s instead of suffering through lvl4s.
- the majority of lvl4 missions does not require you to travel at all, especially with navy raven (150km range w00t).
- for those few missions that do require travel, an afterburner will do until you have the skills and experience to know WTF you're doing.
- do not waste ISK on faction missiles. just try to get T2 launchers and get fury for battleships and precision for cruisers/frigates.
- all the advantages a power diagnostics gives you sound nice on paper but other than the power grid, they are not very relevant in missions or easier to achieve with other means. for example, a medium cap booster (instead of your MWD) will solve all your cap problems and allows you to be generous with shield boosting, which in turn makes shield buffer and passive shield recharge irrelevant.
- on the other hand, more damage is more damage is more damage. the fourth BCS will add another ~10% missile dps which means faster mission times which means moar ISK.

and lastly: this is the ships&modules forum. people come here to ask about ships and modules. there is no reason to be apologetic.

I just recently started playing around with a Rail Ferox and am plowing through level 3's , quite amazed at how good that ship is now , i'm almost willing to bet I can make close to the same ( isk / hour ) as I was getting with L4's

But yeah shield recharge on Battleships isn't very good, Best to have high resists and a good shield booster / Decent cap or fit cap booster for those Oh**** moments , The better your dps the less you have to worry about incoming dmg as well.

i was bored so i took the time to slap together a CNR fit:

[Raven Navy Issue]

[High Slots]
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II
Cruise Missile Launcher II

[Med Slots]
Large C5-L Emergency Shield Overload I
Medium Electrochemical Capacitor Booster I - Cap Booster 800
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Kinetic Deflection Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Sensor Booster II - Scan Resolution Script

[Low Slots]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

[Rigs]
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I


- the sensor booster is a gimmick. you can use it to boost your sensor strength to get jammed less often or to lock and kill things faster. it is also easy on CPU. you can replace it with a target painter if you have trouble killing cruisers, but on a high end fit, a SeBo is really nice to have.

- the damage control is a safety net. you can replace it with a signal amplifier or even a drone damage amp once you feel comfortable. you can also save CPU by fitting the (more expensive) internal forcefield array.

- as has been stated before, you can save CPU by fitting faction hardeners (and once you're rich, faction BCSs).

edit: this fit will deal up to 888dps before implants and faction BCSs. while this does not sound like much on paper, it can compete very well in practice, as it has much less problems with damage application and range compared to other (turret) ships.

You need to develop patience. EVE is a patient player's game.

Being impatient leads quickly to burn out and frustration. It can lead to costly mistakes that set you back (like how back in the day I rush to do The AE bonus room and lost my 1st CNR lol). Learn how to live within your means, learn how cool "cheapsakting" in EVE is (pvping with destroyers and cruisers, doing low sec plexes with nothing more than a drake etc etc).

The best stuff will come in time, but you have to give it time. EVE is not an instant gratification game (Thank Icelandic pagan Gods).

OK this is our CNR fit - nothing much can touch you since you are sniping from over 150km away.

[Raven Navy Issue]

[High Slots]
8 x Arb Cruise Launchers - you are doing level 4's not PvP and Arb launchers are fine. Use appropriate missile for whatever faction you are going up against.

[Med Slots] - [Change kinetic and thermic shield enhancers when needed for different factions]
Kinetic Dissipation Field II
Kinetic Deflection Amplifier II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Thermic Deflection Amplifier II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II - more than one of this is not needed - waste of CPU and doesn't add enough over all to make up the difference in wasted CPU.
Sensor Booster II - Scan Resolution Script
Micro Jump Drive - jump 100km away - start shooting.

[Low Slots]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Damage Control II

[Rigs]
Large Core Defense Field Extender 1
Large Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

[Drones]
Use whatever is appropriate for the mission - I have found that if you use level 2 scout drones they get targeted and shot up a lot. Best to just use level 1's - they can easily take out frigates and can even take out destroyers.


This fit allows for you to take hits from NPC ships without worry of being taken out. With your distance and firepower - there is not a level 4 you cannot solo in this build.