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High end drone sites

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Callduron
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#1 - 2013-10-17 13:22:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Callduron
My corp mates and I ran an escalation from Hierarchy a few weeks back called Troubles in Paradise.
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Troubles_in_Paradize

It took some considerable time, well over 2 hours, and the initial warp ins were moderately risky. At the end of the run we killed the big fat loot ship and got about 250m worth of Tech 2 salvage. An internet site we found advised that the drop would be worth about 2 billion isk.

My first thought was ho hum, loot gods not kind but then I thought again. We did get the best loot - Capacitor Consoles, whole bunch of them. What has happened is that these Escalations and plexes are balanced based on the pre-Odyssey price of T2 salvage. Which was about ten times the current price. Which is why at the end of our run we got 200m worth of loot instead of 2b of loot.
http://www.eve-markets.net/detail?typeid=25622#history


Now I'm not against the changes that Odyssey brought in - I think it's marvellous that dangerous space is full of entrepreneurial newbies in Magnates.

However Odyssey did accidentally break drone site rewards by tanking the T2 salvage market.

The solution I'd like to suggest is deadspace and faction versions of the various Drone upgrade modules. We already have Officer versions, introduced not long ago but almost no one runs belts to rat so people aren't finding these. Indeed it was mentioned at the last Alliance Tournament that HaartSP had probably picked a Domi as his flagship with the expectation of fitting it with officer drone damage amps but was disappointed to find there are none to be had for love nor money.

Anyway please review the reward structure for Drone sites, if we'd done a similar expedition in Querious we'd perhaps have got a Bhaalgorn bpc and a bunch of X- type modules.

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I post on reddit as /u/callduron.

Batelle
Federal Navy Academy
#2 - 2013-10-17 18:00:32 UTC
Drone sites were crap long before Odyssey. Any experienced explorer could have told you never to bother with hierarchy.

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Callduron
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
#3 - 2013-10-22 15:10:41 UTC
Sure but isn't the intention to bring them into line?

When officer mods were added to the Drone Regions I believe that was the intention stated in the dev blog but it hasn't really worked because people don't run Asteroid Belts when ratting.

I write http://stabbedup.blogspot.co.uk/

I post on reddit as /u/callduron.

Abdiel Kavash
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-10-22 15:14:40 UTC
Go conquer space that is not crap.


(Trolling aside, I agree. Top-tier sites across regions should have comparable rewards. There should still be some variations creating more and less valuable space, but not an order of magnitude of difference.)
Cy Berg
LOST 111111's
#5 - 2013-12-09 23:34:45 UTC
I tend to agree that the drone sites were always crappy. I think thats why they dropped bs items to try to compensate for not having anything of value at least you could get some minerals out of it.

Now days the minerals and goo were nerfed due to all the complaining of oversaturating them with minerals. Now we just get bounties.

There was a rumor going around that drone sites had higher bounties to compensate for the lack of drop items, but thats bullshit. I've been looking around Gurista and can tell you that the bounties across ship classes are the same.

So now drone sites are even worse than before. Something needs to be changed. Either all loot needs to be nerfed ... not likely, or loot needs to be added to drone sites - which should be occuring anyway.
Caleb Seremshur
Commando Guri
Guristas Pirates
#6 - 2013-12-10 05:51:14 UTC
Callduron wrote:
Sure but isn't the intention to bring them into line?

When officer mods were added to the Drone Regions I believe that was the intention stated in the dev blog but it hasn't really worked because people don't run Asteroid Belts when ratting.


The problem as you correctly identified is that drones don't drop loot. Ehich would otherwise account dor nearly 30% of ratting value