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Give non-militia pilots a suspect timer when entering a militia site
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Motorbit
Moira.
#1 - 2013-10-22 06:01:37 UTC  |  Edited by: Motorbit
the topic says it all.
it sucks to lose sec status to pirates all the time, that can not have any other intention then to agress me when comming into my complex.
pirates are fun, fights are fun, but this part of eves agression mecanic could use some love.
Electrique Wizard
Mutually Lucrative Business Proposals
#2 - 2013-10-22 08:56:49 UTC
Only if militia pilots in sites get a sec status hit and make them flashy red when they cloak up or warp using stabs while pointed.

I am the Zodiac, I am the stars, You are the sorceress, my priestess of Mars, Queen of the night, swathed in satin black, Your ivory flesh upon my torture rack.
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-10-22 09:29:54 UTC
Both of the above posts are agreeable Blink
TehCloud
Guardians of the Dodixie
#4 - 2013-10-22 09:45:27 UTC
Give warpcore stabbed pilots a deserter flag. Giving LP to milita members who shoot them down themselves.

My Condor costs less than that module!
Vaju Enki
Secular Wisdom
#5 - 2013-10-22 09:58:48 UTC
Electrique Wizard wrote:
Only if militia pilots in sites get a sec status hit and make them flashy red when they cloak up or warp using stabs while pointed.


This.

The Tears Must Flow
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-10-22 10:04:57 UTC
Electrique Wizard wrote:
Only if militia pilots in sites get a sec status hit and make them flashy red when they cloak up or warp using stabs while pointed.

To that note why not just make the complex a warp disruption bubble and eliminate wcs entirely.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Morrigan LeSante
Perkone
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-10-22 10:59:08 UTC
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Electrique Wizard wrote:
Only if militia pilots in sites get a sec status hit and make them flashy red when they cloak up or warp using stabs while pointed.

To that note why not just make the complex a warp disruption bubble and eliminate wcs entirely.


So how would one get out? P
dethleffs
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#8 - 2013-10-22 11:02:39 UTC
How do you lose secstatus by engaging a -10? Am I missing something?
Omnathious Deninard
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-10-22 11:10:17 UTC
Morrigan LeSante wrote:
Omnathious Deninard wrote:
Electrique Wizard wrote:
Only if militia pilots in sites get a sec status hit and make them flashy red when they cloak up or warp using stabs while pointed.

To that note why not just make the complex a warp disruption bubble and eliminate wcs entirely.


So how would one get out? P

Warp disruption would shutdown once the complex was captured.

If you don't follow the rules, neither will I.
Jita Akachi
Doomheim
#10 - 2013-10-22 11:10:53 UTC
dethleffs wrote:
How do you lose secstatus by engaging a -10? Am I missing something?


Cause very stupid security tag and rich pirate enough coward to buy it!
dethleffs
Immortalis Inc.
Shadow Cartel
#11 - 2013-10-22 11:55:54 UTC
Jita Akachi wrote:
dethleffs wrote:
How do you lose secstatus by engaging a -10? Am I missing something?


Cause very stupid security tag and rich pirate enough coward to buy it!


Buy tags of your own with your mad FW monies then.
Lloyd Roses
Artificial Memories
#12 - 2013-10-22 11:58:41 UTC
TehCloud wrote:
Give warpcore stabbed pilots a deserter flag. Giving LP to milita members who shoot them down themselves.


Raise the bar: The countdown timer doesn't work if any ship with a cloak or a warpcorestab is inside the plex!
Bischopt
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#13 - 2013-10-22 12:10:34 UTC
Frankly as long as you're not aggressing their pods, the security hit is tiny.

Plexes are there to generate PvP and they act much like belts or planets. There's no reason to treat them differently imo.
Motorbit
Moira.
#14 - 2013-10-22 16:50:09 UTC
i appriciate the input here. but can we limit this thread to one suggestion?
yes, stabtard farmers suck and all.... but lets keep this about the agression mecanic.
this already should offer plenty to argue about.
Hypnagogia Ichinumi
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-10-22 17:57:36 UTC
Re: Pirates - let them shoot first
Re: WCS - fit 2 points
Re: This thread - lol
TehCloud
Guardians of the Dodixie
#16 - 2013-10-23 02:03:49 UTC
Motorbit wrote:
i appriciate the input here. but can we limit this thread to one suggestion?
yes, stabtard farmers suck and all.... but lets keep this about the agression mecanic.
this already should offer plenty to argue about.


If people enter your plex, they will shoot you and go suspect anyway. Take the sechit for the tactical advantage of not letting them burn to range before they engage you and shoot them.

Not much of an issue there tbh. Lowsec is lowsec. Plexes are supposed to make people fight.

My Condor costs less than that module!
Motorbit
Moira.
#17 - 2013-10-23 02:36:51 UTC
often enough one doesnt have the option to let the enemy agress first. in many fights, this would mean to lose the figt. one is

its a fact, once a "neutral" ship enters a complex, it is agressing. it has no non agressive buisiness there, and the player inside the plex has but two options - to fight for his lp or to run and lose it.
i dont think its a good mecanic to punish the desission to fight by a sec hit.

btw, the fact that sec can be repaired is not an argument at all. you could argue as well it doesnt matter if you randomly lose isk to wallet gremlins because you can always make more.
Scarlet Firefly
Three Radioactive Assault Fish Frigates Inc.
#18 - 2013-10-23 02:47:03 UTC
Motorbit wrote:
the topic says it all.
it sucks to lose sec status to pirates all the time, that can not have any other intention then to agress me when comming into my complex.
pirates are fun, fights are fun, but this part of eves agression mecanic could use some love.

Can we also add anyone who enters my system in low gets suspect too? Their only intent is to shoot me and my corp. Infact, anyone in low should get suspect, because the only reason people go into low is to PVP.
Motorbit
Moira.
#19 - 2013-10-23 03:17:20 UTC
hush, troll elsewhere.
youre talkin nonsense, and you know it.
Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#20 - 2013-10-23 03:54:04 UTC
Even if I weren't already flashy to everyone, why should I be flashy to a farmer? You can't shoot at me when you're warping out.
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