Ships & Modules

I was mainly offline the last few months and apparently missed some changes, especially with battleships. I am particularly confused about the Raven: one high slot less and one medium slot more.

In the past (when the Raven had 8 high slots) I had a setup for mission running with 6 x cruise launchers and 2 x 425mm rails. The rails were never really useful on the Raven but the fitting worked and gave a few percent more damage and the alternatives weren't very useful either. I even had a mag stab in low and hybrid collision accelerator as rig.

Now, with one high slot less fitting a single 425mm rail and wasting low slots and rigs to support a single turret seems completely stupid. I'm thinking about replacing it with a drone link augmentor. With the 2 rail turrets less the only modules that consume significant power grid are the 6 cruise launchers, an afterburner and a large shield booster.

But now the whole fitting leaves more than 4700 PG unused (and even no CPU bottleneck). Even a x-large shield booster uses only around 400 PG more than a large one. A MWD instead of the AB gives just 700 PG more. Fitting a large smart bomb in the 7th high slots consumes a lot PG but I doubt it has a real purpose in missions. Heavy cap booster? Not sure if that is needed over ordinary cap recharge stuff.

Is there something useful I could do with the available power grid? For other battleships I'm usually low on power grid (or even need PG modules) which is why this new Raven slot layout and setup confuses me. As if the remaining PG is supposed to be consumed by some very different setup (or are there new modules I could throw the PG in?) that I just don't see...

EDIT:

Setup (for PVE) is not yet finished, but a sketch is:

[Raven, Raven PVE (No Hybrid)]
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

100MN Afterburner II
Large Shield Booster II
EM Ward Field II
Thermic Dissipation Field II
Target Painter II
Shield Boost Amplifier II
Cap Recharger II

Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Cruise Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Cruise Missile
Drone Link Augmentor II

Large Capacitor Control Circuit I
???
Large Warhead Rigor Catalyst I

Medium Scout Drone II x5
Light Scout Drone II x5

I want to keep the first CCC and the rigor rig. The third rig (currently hybrid collision acc.) must go away. I'm not sure how to replace it.

If you link your fit you will get better responses. I would however suggest not fitting a drone link. One of the changes recently makes the NPC attack your drones with a vengeance so you don't want to be sending them very far out.

Yes, I see now, didn't think about a PVP setup for the Raven.




I've added a sketch of the setup to my first post. But what would you fit instead of the drone link augmentor?

I used a large, named, NOS, for years. It reached out 32 km if I recall, and got me some cap. Cap is life.

That is what I did before LMJD came out.

Not now.

They are low because everyone and their grama Rose use salvage drones. So, no matter how busy or not you are, you come back from the mission with some salvage. Even people who did not salvage before, now can send the drones out, go get a drink, come back, pack the drones and go turn in the mission. In the end we have more salvage on the market.

You guys realise that Salvage drones work faster when the wrecks are closer, due to the reduction in travel time. Same as mining drones working faster when you are right beside the asteroid.

In short if you are deciding between a Tractor beam and a DLA for Salvage drones, the Tractor Beam is the better choice.

I am trying to supplement my income. I am NOT trying to build a marauder.

I've tested it with just one mission. The tank could be better, I think I'll replace the SBA by a third shield hardener next time. The NOS tip was interesting and I tried it. But I'm not really happy with it because there weren't many opportunities to apply it due to the limited range and the (normally) larger distance I try to keep in a Raven.

I still have the Hybrid rig plugged in because I couldn't yet decide how to replace it.

Next surprise was the Typhoon. I'm not going to open a new thread about plenty of PG on the Typh but it seems to be the same situation as with the Raven (1 high slot less, 1 med more). However, for the new Typhoon slot layout the drone link augmentor DOES make sense due to the 100 bandwidth for drones. I just tried it with 6 cruise launchers and 4 sentries (and without the three 1200mm turrets I used to fit on the Typhoon in the past) and it worked quite well.

Ah, good tip. Will keep that in mind!

I've decided now for a missile damage rig in the free rig slot and tested the setup with Angel Extravaganza including bonus room. Worked fine with one capacitor flux coils more and one BCU less and additional shield hardener instead of the target painter. It is almost cap stable (more than 10 minutes cap with running large shield booster). This time the NOS was useful. In the bonus room I kept an Angel Malakim BS at around 15 km distance for almost until the end to suck a bit additional cap.

A drone link would have been useful as well. For some reason drones are targetted very rarely in AE. I guess I should just switch between the different options (NOS, drone link, remote armor rep, tractor beam, etc.) for the 7th high slot depending on what is best suited in a particular mission.