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Underestimating an opponent can lead to disaster
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Marlin Spikes
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#1 - 2013-10-20 21:09:53 UTC
In the merc world, there is always someone better, waiting to capitalize on a mistake. The best merc corps out there are small and have significant experience flying together.

Recently, we wardec'd an alliance. The CEO completely dismissed us due to our size. This isn't the first time we are grossly underestimated, but rest assured this makes the dec all the more fun. Obviously, some folks aren't aware that a small force have some significant advantages in a war.

The war starts in about 22 hours. Stay tuned for more as this war progresses. This should prove both entertaining and educational.

Bombers Rule!!!
Ifly Uwalk
Perkone
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-10-20 21:19:20 UTC
ruuuuun tooooo daaaaaaa hiiiiiiiiills!
Sabriz Adoudel
Move along there is nothing here
#3 - 2013-10-20 22:32:54 UTC
I agree. A recent mark underestimated me, they believed I was honest.

Cost them an incursion fit ship they had purchased two hours beforehand.

I support the New Order and CODE. alliance. www.minerbumping.com
Pinky Feldman
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#4 - 2013-10-20 23:08:12 UTC
Marlin Spikes wrote:
In the merc world, there is always someone better, waiting to capitalize on a mistake. The best merc corps out there are small and have significant experience flying together.

Recently, we wardec'd an alliance. The CEO completely dismissed us due to our size. This isn't the first time we are grossly underestimated, but rest assured this makes the dec all the more fun. Obviously, some folks aren't aware that a small force have some significant advantages in a war.

The war starts in about 22 hours. Stay tuned for more as this war progresses. This should prove both entertaining and educational.


The best merc corps out there keep their achievements quiet and don't feel the need to chestbeat over their skill. Highsec is a sad disappointment compared to what it used to be.

The moar you cry the less you pee
IZZY EPIC
Best Kept Dunked
Wreckflix and chill
#5 - 2013-10-21 00:36:18 UTC
Ccp has left highsec warfare behind, days of me hunting high value targets is just a fond memory now.
Under estimating and Complacency was the key to my success in high sec killing.

To assume i am not watching you hours/days after you docked up in your shiny tengu is a big mistake.
vyshnegradsky
The Legion of Spoon
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
#6 - 2013-10-21 02:02:24 UTC
http://eve.battleclinic.com/killboard/killmail.php?id=19431362

Don't underestimate these guys, you might be in for a miner surprise.

This one's a bit over the edge guys.

Locked for breaking... well, pretty much all the rules.

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Tora Bushido
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#7 - 2013-10-21 10:13:08 UTC
We never underestimate anyone. Small merc groups dont make much mistakes and are hard to kill as they are used to fly as a solid group. A large group of beginning pvp players still kill you because of the numbers. Every pro leet pvp player starts somewhere, so why couldn't he be in an unknown group so far. etc etc....


“If your enemy is secure at all points, be prepared for him. If he is in superior strength, evade him. If your opponent is temperamental, seek to irritate him. Pretend to be weak, that he may grow arrogant. If he is taking his ease, give him no rest. If his forces are united, separate them. If sovereign and subject are in accord, put division between them. Attack him where he is unprepared, appear where you are not expected.”
― Sun Tzu

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Marlin Spikes
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-10-21 12:19:34 UTC
Tora, my friend, this post isn't about Marmite. You guys always show us love and good fights. Our wardecs have always been mutually fun. Here's a little more of the story. To protect the innocent, we shall call the underestimating alliance leader "Derp."

About a year ago, we wardec'd an alliance. When we tried to convo the alliance leader, they didn't "have the time for us." We were insignificant. Hurt and challenged, we extended the wardec for about 8 months. Lol That alliance leader eventually stepped down. I'm not claiming we were the cause of his political demise, but I have to admit, I felt a little guilty.

Back to the present...we wardec'd an up and coming alliance who claim to be PVP'ers. One of our directors convos the alliance leader. Why, you ask? The alliance name reminded our director of a game he used to play. So naturally, we wanted to reach out and create a common ground. Afterall, this is a game of relationships and love. During the private convo, the alliance leader was rude and angry, which was totally acceptable and understandable behaviour. However, this is where he completely underestimated us:

Our Director > do your research on us before you keep typing
Derp> im not even gonna go and spend 5 min on it.
Derp > a high sec corp with less then 20 members.
Derp > i could not care less about it :)

Our response? ha...Haha. BruHAHAHAHAhaa aaaa *thunder*...*flashes* Twisted

We have found our new purpose in Eve. The War begins 18:58 today....more to follow

Bombers Rule!!!
Marlin Spikes
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#9 - 2013-10-21 12:21:12 UTC
IZZY EPIC wrote:
Ccp has left highsec warfare behind, days of me hunting high value targets is just a fond memory now.
Under estimating and Complacency was the key to my success in high sec killing.

To assume i am not watching you hours/days after you docked up in your shiny tengu is a big mistake.



Sooo true. Cloaky alts for the win!!

Bombers Rule!!!
Fybs
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-10-21 13:13:36 UTC
I for one will be watching this with interest.

go show them how wrong there are and good luck Big smile

Don't confuse kindness with weakness.

Beware the hand of Fybs.

Proud CEO of the Somalian Coast Guard Authority
Jack Morrison
Team Liquid crp.
#11 - 2013-10-21 14:06:22 UTC
Had mixed feelings after reading the first post, you got me on the 8 month of war part Lol Gonna clean my goggles and grab some popcorn Pirate

Looking for a group to pew with ? Have a chat with me.
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#12 - 2013-10-21 15:44:58 UTC
Is this happening in hisec?

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Naginata Rios
Game.Theory
GameTheory
#13 - 2013-10-21 18:58:42 UTC
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
Is this happening in hisec?

no will prob be in low sec...they seem to think they are safe there....like i wont hit the jump button if its .4 lol..........
Marlin Spikes
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#14 - 2013-10-21 19:10:41 UTC
This war will start off in Highsec, but I imagine it will quickly lead to other secs. We found a lowsec area, which many of their players like to hang out at. So griefing 101...2 minutes until the war starts and the war target is preparing for battle.

First mistake - Everyone prepares for a large climatic battle the moment the war goes active. Deny them this fight, and their frustration begins to build. Obviously, a small, outnumbered gang can't attack a much larger opponent, so we begin by parking an afk cyno alt in their home system....and wait. As I type, they taunt us through chats. With each passing moment, their anticipation of a fight drives them to insanity as they realize....nothing is happening.


Deny access and opportunity, divide their ranks and forces, and destroy their morale and resoucres. Let the mind games begin.

Bombers Rule!!!
Leto Thule
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-10-21 19:22:46 UTC
Naginata Rios wrote:
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
Is this happening in hisec?

no will prob be in low sec...they seem to think they are safe there....like i wont hit the jump button if its .4 lol..........


Well... quite a few HS corps WONT... so maybe they are just assuming that.

Thunderdome ringmaster, Community Leader and Lord Inquisitor to the Court of Crime and Punishment
Tora Bushido
Commonwealth Mercenaries
BLACKFLAG.
#16 - 2013-10-21 19:23:05 UTC
Marlin Spikes wrote:
Tora, my friend, this post isn't about Marmite.
I knew you weren't talking about us..... Its not all about marmites....................is it ?! Twisted

Have fun hunting them down.....

DELETE THE WEAK, ADAPT OR DIE !

Meta Gaming Level VII, Psycho Warfare Level X, Smack Talk Level VII.
Kalel Nimrott
Caldari Provisions
#17 - 2013-10-21 20:48:14 UTC
Naginata Rios wrote:
Kalel Nimrott wrote:
Is this happening in hisec?

no will prob be in low sec...they seem to think they are safe there....like i wont hit the jump button if its .4 lol..........


Nice. Lowsec is always to be respected.
Go ahead, my friend. You have my moral support!

Bob Artis, you will be missed.

O7
Lady Ayeipsia
BlueWaffe
#18 - 2013-10-21 22:13:57 UTC
... But if you are the opponent, it can be very fun.Twisted
Pinky Feldman
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#19 - 2013-10-21 22:15:52 UTC
Marlin Spikes wrote:
However, this is where he completely underestimated us:

Our Director > do your research on us before you keep typing
Derp> im not even gonna go and spend 5 min on it.
Derp > a high sec corp with less then 20 members.
Derp > i could not care less about it :)

Our response? ha...Haha. BruHAHAHAHAhaa aaaa *thunder*...*flashes* Twisted

We have found our new purpose in Eve. The War begins 18:58 today....more to follow


Just because someone couldn't care less about a highsec war dec doesn't mean that you're being underestimated. I'm glad that you're able to spin some sort of narrative out of someone else's apathy and keep the game fun for yourself though. Keep doing that.

The moar you cry the less you pee
Naginata Rios
Game.Theory
GameTheory
#20 - 2013-10-21 22:42:01 UTC
Pinky Feldman wrote:
Marlin Spikes wrote:
However, this is where he completely underestimated us:

Our Director > do your research on us before you keep typing
Derp> im not even gonna go and spend 5 min on it.
Derp > a high sec corp with less then 20 members.
Derp > i could not care less about it :)

Our response? ha...Haha. BruHAHAHAHAhaa aaaa *thunder*...*flashes* Twisted

We have found our new purpose in Eve. The War begins 18:58 today....more to follow


Just because someone couldn't care less about a highsec war dec doesn't mean that you're being underestimated. I'm glad that you're able to spin some sort of narrative out of someone else's apathy and keep the game fun for yourself though. Keep doing that.


apathy and disrespect are two different things you clearly don't know the differences, so pull up a chair sexy, let old naggers teach ya.

Apathy would go like this.................. see how nothing happened? if he was apathetic he wouldn't have showed interest in us and wouldn't have convoed us cuz he wouldn't care...
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