Player Features and Ideas Discussion

With a bit of reworking I think they could add some interesting game play options.

BP's or the mines themselves could be bought through the various faction LP stores
Despawn timer (maybe 1-2 hours after which they self detonate), to prevent massive impassible mine fields
Can't be deployed within X km of another mine/gate/can/etc.
Perhaps have gate/station guns automatically target mines in low-sec, but give them enough EHP that they would stick around on field long enough for someone to be able to get caught in it

Just some of the ideas I remember seeing from a thread on Reddit the other day.

I wasn't about to list all possibilities regarding mine spam, but thought the idea of a restriction on deployment range would help alleviate that problem. To expand on this, you can have the deployment range restriction higher than the explosion radius (effectively creating a safe zone between bombs) and also have mines damage anyone who ventures to closely. Likewise, the despawn timer means that mines would have to be constantly replaced if they're deployed around POS's, bubbles, gates, etc.. Maybe 1-2 hours is to long and 30 minutes would be better, the figures I were just numbers I came up with to start the discussion.

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Speaking of minimal ways to to get kills, people already anchor cans on the edge of bubbles placed at deathstar POS's all the time and those are permanent until destroyed or taken down.

I wouldnt like to see mines return. The issues are still around in terms of performance. Aside from computers CCP STILL has issues with lag this is why they put tidi into effect. Mines are just too large of a performance hog on resources.

A part of why we have TiDi is because the server process is only single-threaded. Once CCP finishes untwisting all the legacy code and (probably) replacing it, they can (unless they already are) get around to the daunting and terrible task of refactoring it into something multi-threaded. That should see EVE speed up dramatically even on a 1980s mac.

Yah except when mines used to be in the game they would deploy about 10x more mines than bubbles

That is kind of the point of mines.

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You can treat mines like pos guns and make it so that the corp gets the kills not the player deploying them, thus reducing killboard spam.

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I think the only way to truly minimize performance impacts you would need some type of limitation. For example, bombs can only be launched in specific periods of time with a cool-down period. I would imagine mines would need to be in the same fashion. Not really launched but some type of time limitation to prevent massive amounts from just spamming space.

There would probably need to be a limitation in the amount of time they would remain in space as well. Say...2-4 weeks? Either way its to keep space from getting too cluttered up in areas that receive little to no traffic. bubbles are already cluttering up enough. Granted they do get destroyed.

As for distance from objects...they should operate on the same principle as bubbles. The idea for mines isn't to trap someone like a bubble does, but to engage a target.

Cloaked ships...meh I do not think mines should detonate solely on cloaked ships; however, just as a smart bomb and bomb or any other aoe causes damage...so too should mines. If a cloaked ship detonates a mine at say 5km it will take damage but NOT decloak unless the mine is actually 2km like normal objects are. If the mine has a 10km detonation range and it blows up with no ship showing, then you know that its a cloaked ship somewhere in the 8-10 radius of the mine. At least thats my point of view on it.