EVE General Discussion

Just want to see how many people think CCP has made Hybrids a desirable weapon system with their finished changes basically if you think they did an acceptable job balancing them. They stated that the changes on Sisi will go live and will be revisited after a few months* to see if further tweaks are needed (so bacially they are done for a long time). Not looking for reasons or suggestions.

+1 if you think CCP has done a good job balancing the hybrids
-1 If you think the changes are not enough



For those who dont know here are the final changes (tried to condense) :

All hybrid turrets:

Hybrid turret reload time will be 5 seconds.
Hybrid ammo will be 50% smaller (and turret capacity reduced to keep same number of charges)
-30% capacitor use
-12% Powergrid usage. ** Exceptions: Light Electron Blasters, Light Ion Blasters, 125mm Railguns, 75mm Railguns
XL Turrets: -5 CPU
L Turrets: -3 CPU
M Turrets: -2 CPU
S Turrets: -1 CPU ** Exception: 75mm Railguns


Tracking Speed Increase:
Blaster tracking: +20%
Railgun tracking: +5%
** Exception: XL turrets

Damage Increase:
Railgun railgun: +10% to Damage modifier
Blaster damage +5% to Damage modifier
** Exception: XL turrets

Tech II Ammo

Javelin (all sizes): Removed cap penalty
Javelin, Gleam and Quake (all sizes): Removed tracking speed penalty, added 25% tracking speed bonus
Hail (all sizes): -25% falloff from -50%



Hybrid turret ships:
Max Velocity +10 on the following ships:

Arazu, Astarte, Brutix, Catalyst, Deimos, Dominix, Dominix Navy Issue, Enyo, Eos, Falcon, Guardian-Vexor, Helios, Incursus, Ishtar, Lachesis, Maulus, Megathron, Megathron Federate Issue, Megathron Navy Issue, Thorax, Tristan, Utu, Vexor, Vexor Navy Issue, Vigilant

Max Velocity +5 on the following ships:
Cormorant, Federation Navy Comet, Hyperion, Kronos, Sin, Vindicator


Inertia Modifier -5% on the following ships:

Adrestia, Arazu, Ares, Astarte, Atron, Brutix, Catalyst, Celestis, Cormorant, Daredevil, Deimos, Dominix, Dominix Navy Issue, Eagle, Enyo, Eos, Eris, Exequror Navy Issue, Falcon, Federation Navy Comet, Ferox, Guardian-Vexor, Harpy, Helios, Hyperion, Incursus, Ishkur, Ishtar, Kronos, Lachesis, Maulus, Megathron, Megathron Federate Issue, Megathron Navy Issue, Merlin, Moa, Phobos, Raptor, Rokh, Sin, Taranis, Thorax, Tristan, Utu, Vexor, Vexor Navy Issue, Vigilant, Vindicator, Vulture

I'll take what I can get.

Is it enough? Only time will tell.

These changes are a good start, certainly an improvement over what we have to deal with currently on TQ.
I especially welcome the tracking and the ship velocity updates.

+1
For now.

I'm happy enough with it. Hybrids may not be wtfawesome, but I'll no longer feel like an idiot for choosing them over lasers or projectiles on droneboats like the Vexor and Dominix.

If pipe dreams help you sleep at night.

what about us caldari?

We still have the ultimate optimal bonus on all of our ships, now we need the damage.

Hybrid re-balance can be good enough... time will tell..
Its blaster boates that needs a look over.
Maby 10% more armor hitpoints so ship can survive on its way to optimal range ?
I would love a afterburner speed boost...
And some better sensor strength

Dont take away gallentes drones

After last night painfully chipping away at a covops in my blaster ceptor (yeah, lol), I would say +1.

Have enough been done to make the hybrid platforms that are supposed to carry them better at carrying them? Maybe not.

But it's a good start. Just don't leave it there, and go wandering off after space barbies (too much), please CCP.

I really love hybrids and find it awesome that finally my primary weapon will get a boost to be in par with others, but ther's one issue:



If that is true, it's quite insane, since it'll bring all gallente battleships using those huge rails in par with minmatar non-cap using ships. I've checked on sisi and my fears were right. Even without any cap mods a pvp-sniper fitted megathron (which used to be quite cap-draining even with my maxed out cap skills) is stable and in fact, very well cap stable to the point where you could mwd and shoot for up to 15 minutes. Mind that I don't have maxed out mwd skills so I guess it could be stable with a lil' bit of work.

And that's without cap rigs, without cap mods of any kind. Keeping the cap booster just for anti-neuting purposes seems silly especially in big fleets with guardians. In small gangs it'll still be in use but just as a precaution against neut fleets.

The rest of the changes, imo, will finally bring the hybrids up to the level of all other primary weapons, so I'm not objecting to those. Not sure if the tracking boost for blastes is enough, but surely it'll make more people use them.

They are making it into the expansion. They are the changes that are on sisi now, I believe.

+1 should be interesting. Some of the ships having more cap recharge means freeing up some slots for other things instead of cap modules. I can't wait to see what happens when they hit TQ.