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Considering how easy it is to siphon a significant amount of a moon's production, I think it's only fair that if the owner is paying attention they can get those things back.

Having the asset API lie about the contents of silos is the wrong choice in 100% of cases. If you can't build a feature while returning accurate API data, then you need to design a better feature. I cannot believe anyone though that returning INACCURATE API DATA was ever an acceptable choice. Holy ******* ****.



The assets API doesn't work this way. It has a 6-hour cache timer which is shared across all corporation keys -- you can't make multiple corporate keys and have the assets API refresh more often.

Wow, really great idea. When I first read this though, I was hoping that this would siphon off pos fuel or stront...that, IMO would be fantastic.

For a moment, let us imagine the future equilibrium for this gameplay element:

Guy with cargo-expanded covert cloaking ship and a bunch of siphons is AFK cloaking in a system with a R32 or R64 moon. He un-AFKs at a random time once or twice a day, drops or scoops siphons. Meanwhile, random griefer with a bubble-immune fast-warp interceptor flies by a dozen moons dropping siphons, including this one.

POS owner has nothing to defeat AFK cloaking or interceptors. They detect unexpected silo levels as their real life schedule allows and log in an alt, gun the POS, and shoot the siphons. In the meantime he's lost all his goo production for a big chunk of the day because there were 8 siphons attached to the POS -- they're so cheap, they're just a fire-and-forget griefer tool. There's no 'timer' at which both forces must meet to determine the fate of the gameplay element, so it's entirely async and the two sides never interact in realtime.

Result: higher moon goo prices, more AFK cloaky alts (which honestly seems to be the sort of terrible gameplay CCP is encouraging these days), nobody particularly having fun unless you enjoy griefing (which, hey, it's EVE -- many do). But nobody is rewarded for spending time developing or living in a system ... only for random, short logins to push butan. It's poor gameplay.

Rubicon: burnt farms and salted fields.

Alliance - even small group of players - can actually do the same with SBUs. Size doesn't really matter as much as the time it take to all put in place, for the little benefit it will give.

I do love to call the ball and then smug later about being right. So let me explain how this plays out to you.

Everyone will transfer valuable moons to closer holders who are then taxed or rent increased to offset this. So null blocs won't be impacted that rent or that have good C&C. However, this also means everyone is going to enter into doughnut pacts and you are going to watch null blue up and stagnate even more so than it is.

This is a terribly flawed design. We withheld judgement when this was first released thinking you would do this one right and it was an interesting mechanic and had the possibility for some fun interactions. You got it wrong on balance with multiple siphons and costs.

What a ridiculous comparison. SBUs don't generate income.

In this case the output from the reactor is the end of the chain, the raw materials can't be stolen.

Can't be more blue than it is now :D
And probably renters won't rent moons because people like me will suck their POSs 24/7 and they wont't be able to do anything about it.
Big entities will have to live in the area around POSs if they want most of the moon goo from now on.
If they won't live around, than no moon goo :DDD

20m3 does seem tiny compared to how big the actual unit will be when deployed... how can you make something shrink that much into a cargo-bay ... surely it should be more cargo-ship sized like 1200m3 if it is going too be able to store that much surely it should have to be that size to begin with .. especially with cov-op frigs or inties they could easily exploit these things going from POS to POS without be catch-able it seems a little unbalanced to me.