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Possible exploit? or BUG? sharing killrights. [UPDATED]

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NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#1 - 2013-10-17 12:18:13 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
The other day i agreed to a 1v1 fight vargur vs vargur all was going fine and i was tanking, I'm honerable and wouldn't have killed him.. Anyways it ended up with me getting ganked..

3 other players were able to shoot me.. the killmail says i was killed on behalf off ... but the guy who it was on behalf of ive never shot ever!! or killed him or stole a can... NOTHING! theres no connection at all between me and that character..

Somehow these people got killrights on me through the kill on behalf of someone mechanic...

Anyone have any ideas, ive asked many people and they dont know how its possible either..

UPDATE:
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The guy who the kill was on behalf off is: Caito Sicarius

It just does'nt make sense, ive never come across that guy ever!

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Cerile Audeles
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-10-17 12:22:26 UTC
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Kill_rights#Selling_kill_rights

It seems you have been asking wrong people.

Oh, and in before all the "lol honour" posts.
Mra Rednu
Oyonata Gate Defence Force.
#3 - 2013-10-17 12:24:10 UTC  |  Edited by: Mra Rednu
You didn't flip a can or anything by chance ?

Also who was this someone ?
Sorao Soreen
Profit to burn
#4 - 2013-10-17 12:24:14 UTC
Cerile Audeles wrote:
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Kill_rights#Selling_kill_rights

It seems you have been asking wrong people.

Oh, and in before all the "lol honour" posts.


lol Honour

dam you cerile :P
Jove Death
Garoun Investment Bank
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-10-17 12:24:45 UTC
so the procurer you shot the other day didnt activate there KR on you?

Which means anyone in that area could have blapped u

Quoting "you will die" in EvE is fail Chars dont die in EvE. Unless you have a heart attack eek.
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#6 - 2013-10-17 12:26:17 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
it was honourable, i didnt fit a warp scram lol.
Anyways, nope i was docked for a good 1 hour before i agreed to it, i stole nothing at all. it was all planned.

The guy who made the killrights available ive never seen before!! it just doesnt make sense...

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Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-10-17 12:27:19 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
3 other players were able to shoot me.. the killmail says i was killed on behalf off ... but the guy who it was on behalf of ive never shot ever!! or killed him or stole a can... NOTHING! theres no connection at all between me and that character..


Who was it "on behalf of"? Can you evemail the link to the killreport to me?
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#8 - 2013-10-17 12:29:50 UTC  |  Edited by: NickyYo
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
3 other players were able to shoot me.. the killmail says i was killed on behalf off ... but the guy who it was on behalf of ive never shot ever!! or killed him or stole a can... NOTHING! theres no connection at all between me and that character..


Who was it "on behalf of"? Can you evemail the link to the killreport to me?


I'm not on eve atm so cant check that. I'm at work. though i did search his name yesterday on the killboards and couldnt find any kill at all.. i have 4 kills and before that they were 400 days ago..

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Jack Morrison
Team Liquid crp.
#9 - 2013-10-17 12:32:20 UTC
I have seen some bugs with the killrights, like you get a notification, but nothing seen in the killrights.....until you suddenly go flashy at hubs/gates.
If you think it was a bug - petition it. But be prepared it will take at least a few days until you get a resposne.

Looking for a group to pew with ? Have a chat with me.
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-10-17 12:33:03 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
I'm not on eve atm so cant check that. I'm at work. though i did search his name yesterday on the killboards and couldnt find any kill at all.. i have 4 kills and before that they were 400 days ago..


It doesn't need to be a kill, merely aggressing someone in high-sec or aggressing the pod in low-sec will create a kill-right.
Risalo Oramara
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-10-17 12:33:30 UTC
this guys avatar face... it tickles me
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#12 - 2013-10-17 12:51:13 UTC
Sipphakta en Gravonere wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
I'm not on eve atm so cant check that. I'm at work. though i did search his name yesterday on the killboards and couldnt find any kill at all.. i have 4 kills and before that they were 400 days ago..


It doesn't need to be a kill, merely aggressing someone in high-sec or aggressing the pod in low-sec will create a kill-right.


i've not done that either m8..
It just doesnt make sense.

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Cannibal Kane
Viziam
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-10-17 12:57:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Cannibal Kane
The kill you had in low sec would have generated a Killright against you. It is obvious he made it public meaning anybody can activate it at any time.

I have killed many people I see fighting in duels and then activating the killright on them so they can die horribly before they are able to doc. Even followed them into missions waiting for the right time activating it in the mission and killing them.

Even in your loss mail in the game. Their will be a red bar with ziirn face stating the people killed you on behalf of Ziirn.

So no it is not an exploit. You just did not understand how the KR system works. Or prolly do and this is just trolling which would be consistent with your normal forum posting behavior.

"Kane is the End Boss of Highsec." -Psychotic Monk
NickyYo
modro
The Initiative.
#14 - 2013-10-17 13:09:28 UTC
Cannibal Kane wrote:
The kill you had in low sec would have generated a Killright against you. It is obvious he made it public meaning anybody can activate it at any time.

I have killed many people I see fighting in duels and then activating the killright on them so they can die horribly before they are able to doc. Even followed them into missions waiting for the right time activating it in the mission and killing them.

Even in your loss mail in the game. Their will be a red bar with ziirn face stating the people killed you on behalf of Ziirn.

So no it is not an exploit. You just did not understand how the KR system works. Or prolly do and this is just trolling which would be consistent with your normal forum posting behavior.


No need to defend your reply kane, cheers for the reply :) i am infact clueless on this mechanic atm. Because the guy who it was on behalf of did not have kill rights on me inititially becasue ive never done anything to him at all. Thats what i dont get.

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Domanique Altares
Rifterlings
#15 - 2013-10-17 13:14:19 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
The kill you had in low sec would have generated a Killright against you. It is obvious he made it public meaning anybody can activate it at any time.

I have killed many people I see fighting in duels and then activating the killright on them so they can die horribly before they are able to doc. Even followed them into missions waiting for the right time activating it in the mission and killing them.

Even in your loss mail in the game. Their will be a red bar with ziirn face stating the people killed you on behalf of Ziirn.

So no it is not an exploit. You just did not understand how the KR system works. Or prolly do and this is just trolling which would be consistent with your normal forum posting behavior.


No need to defend your reply kane, cheers for the reply :) i am infact clueless on this mechanic atm. Because the guy who it was on behalf of did not have kill rights on me inititially becasue ive never done anything to him at all. Thats what i dont get.

There is a bug of some sort in the KR system where it misreports who the kill was on behalf of. I had this happen the other day. Dunno why or how it happens.
CCP Paradox
#16 - 2013-10-17 13:30:49 UTC
Domanique Altares wrote:
NickyYo wrote:
Cannibal Kane wrote:
The kill you had in low sec would have generated a Killright against you. It is obvious he made it public meaning anybody can activate it at any time.

I have killed many people I see fighting in duels and then activating the killright on them so they can die horribly before they are able to doc. Even followed them into missions waiting for the right time activating it in the mission and killing them.

Even in your loss mail in the game. Their will be a red bar with ziirn face stating the people killed you on behalf of Ziirn.

So no it is not an exploit. You just did not understand how the KR system works. Or prolly do and this is just trolling which would be consistent with your normal forum posting behavior.


No need to defend your reply kane, cheers for the reply :) i am infact clueless on this mechanic atm. Because the guy who it was on behalf of did not have kill rights on me inititially becasue ive never done anything to him at all. Thats what i dont get.

There is a bug of some sort in the KR system where it misreports who the kill was on behalf of. I had this happen the other day. Dunno why or how it happens.


I've never seen any bug report or even talk about this, but I am confident that the Killed on Behalf of will always display the original owner of the Kill Right. Someone else may have activated it, but it will always show the owner of the kill right in the kill report.

CCP Paradox | EVE QA | Team Phenomenon

Space Magician
Velicitia
XS Tech
#17 - 2013-10-17 13:36:27 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
it was honourable, i didnt fit a warp scram lol.


I do believe this counts as "doing something wrong", no?

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Vol Arm'OOO
Central Co-Prosperity Union
#18 - 2013-10-17 13:57:30 UTC
NickyYo wrote:
, I'm honerable and wouldn't have killed him...



I think I found your problem

I don't play, I just fourm warrior.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-10-17 14:20:09 UTC
So you have a short memory

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.
Sipphakta en Gravonere
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-10-17 14:21:43 UTC
Eram Fidard wrote:
So you have a short memory


A shipkill in low security space doesn't generate a killright.
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