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EvE Valkyrie - Gettin' Stoked.

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
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#1 - 2013-10-14 18:55:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
Somebody posted this... thought I'd share. Neat Oculus Rift idea (except you would need 2 gopros for stereoscopic imagery and a pretty serious video transceiver to even start on it).

Oculus Rift just gets more awesome the more I learn about it. Valkyrie is going to be awesome. Big smile

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Skeln Thargensen
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-10-14 21:22:11 UTC
Yeah I can see the side applications being pretty amazing.

I just wish there were safe drugs available to stop me boaking.

forums.  serious business.
Nyreanya
Serenity Labs
#3 - 2013-10-15 01:04:31 UTC
Great. Now I can look at my own ass, and how dumb I look with a big goofy headset. Fantastic.

[/sarcasm]
Pius Rova
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-10-15 01:09:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Pius Rova
Nyreanya wrote:
Great. Now I can look at my own ass, and how dumb I look with a big goofy headset. Fantastic.
You may also get dizzy and nauseous doing it, as an extra bonus.

The more I look into this Oculus Rift the more I'm left wondering, whats so different about this compared to the other attempts to break virtual reality into the general market that companies have attempted since the 1990s?

I remember in 1998 at the local State Fair they had these virtual reality setups where you stood inside this ring with a headset on that looked very similar to the Oculus Rift and you basically looked around you like with the OR and moved around in place and that's how you played a primitive first person shooter against others in similar setups.


$50 says it goes the way of the Virtual Boy within a year.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-10-15 01:34:27 UTC
... can't seem to shake the feeling that there's plenty of STUFF to fix and improve right here in EVE... FIRST. Roll

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
CCP Greyscale
C C P
C C P Alliance
#6 - 2013-10-15 03:08:42 UTC
Pius Rova wrote:
Nyreanya wrote:
Great. Now I can look at my own ass, and how dumb I look with a big goofy headset. Fantastic.
You may also get dizzy and nauseous doing it, as an extra bonus.

The more I look into this Oculus Rift the more I'm left wondering, whats so different about this compared to the other attempts to break virtual reality into the general market that companies have attempted since the 1990s?

I remember in 1998 at the local State Fair they had these virtual reality setups where you stood inside this ring with a headset on that looked very similar to the Oculus Rift and you basically looked around you like with the OR and moved around in place and that's how you played a primitive first person shooter against others in similar setups.


$50 says it goes the way of the Virtual Boy within a year.


It's plausibly affordable and it's really good Smile
Frying Doom
#7 - 2013-10-15 03:19:34 UTC
Felicity Love wrote:
... can't seem to shake the feeling that there's plenty of STUFF to fix and improve right here in EVE... FIRST. Roll

Given that EvE has in my opinion declined in its expansions for the last few years makes me wonder do they need yet another side project. Crucible and Retribution were ok but they were not Apocrypha or Dominion, hell they were not even at Trinity level.

Since they started WoD and Dust 514 most of the expansions have seemed more like patches, added on to this the whole side path they took with the greed is good thing.

Can you imagine what EvE would be like now if they had not devoted so many resources to the Nex store, WoD and Dust 514.

Incarna would have been done, Sov would be fixed, POSs would be modular.

We would be flying in atmospheres or stabbing people in space bars.

The sky would have been the limit.

But here we are stuck in the past while they whittle away even more resources on something other than EvE its self.

CCP managed to make a Goose that laid golden eggs with EvE, shame they decided to just make scrambled eggs from it.

Any spelling, grammatical and punctuation errors are because frankly, I don't care!!
Rich Uncle PennyBags
EVE Online Monopoly
#8 - 2013-10-15 03:20:15 UTC
You can get stereoscopic webcams, so no need for gopros. That would knock the price down significantly.

The real challenge is keeping the orientation and position.
Certain drones like the ARdrone can follow colour tags on hats, so in theory, it's possible.

To be honest, I would love to just fly around with one on.
Formentioned ARdrone can transmit a video feed to a PC already, plug in a rift and you have a first person flying experience.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#9 - 2013-10-15 03:59:42 UTC
Frying Doom wrote:


Since they started WoD and Dust 514 most of the expansions have seemed more like patches, added on to this the whole side path they took with the greed is good thing.

Can you imagine what EvE would be like now if they had not devoted so many resources to the Nex store, WoD and Dust 514.



It's classic "bread and circuses". Throw a new distraction at "the mob" and hope like hell they don't notice/care/give a rats ass about anything else while they are amused.

Just ducky. Roll

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Gogela
Epic Ganking Time
CODE.
#10 - 2013-10-15 04:15:15 UTC  |  Edited by: Gogela
Rich Uncle PennyBags wrote:
You can get stereoscopic webcams, so no need for gopros. That would knock the price down significantly.

The real challenge is keeping the orientation and position.
Certain drones like the ARdrone can follow colour tags on hats, so in theory, it's possible.

To be honest, I would love to just fly around with one on.
Formentioned ARdrone can transmit a video feed to a PC already, plug in a rift and you have a first person flying experience.

I don't know enough to say. I don't know how you calibrate the headset, or if you can/how that works. I hope you can because my eyes are unusually far apart. Orientation and position: you want to orient the cameras to be as perfectly parallel as possible, and put it on a solid frame so they don't jostle in flight. I like gopros because they have high resolution and can take high speed video... but webcams sure would be cheaper... maybe even lighter, and would be easier to rig into a mini-computer. That said, it would be easier to set up if you just streamed the video right from the cameras. At least that's my thinking. I'd love to build a drone or something. That kind of thing is right up my ally.

Edit: Taking it a bit further I think what I just said is stupid. I'll have to take one apart or get more tec specs on it because you would either have to step down the resolution digitally and give it to the headset in a format it can handle, something that requires more skill than I have, or see if the oculus rift can handle analog video and send it to the headset that way (probably better for lag). The latter is doable if possible (which I doubt), but the former is really hard. (...and I'm assuming a lot on the analog, particularly with regards to calibration). The more I think about it the more I think it would be easier to build your own headset from scratch... you'll end up with some crazy steampunk looking thing that cost you 5 grand to build... if you can find small high res screens that take direct analog. What?

Pius Rova wrote:
Nyreanya wrote:
Great. Now I can look at my own ass, and how dumb I look with a big goofy headset. Fantastic.
You may also get dizzy and nauseous doing it, as an extra bonus.

The more I look into this Oculus Rift the more I'm left wondering, whats so different about this compared to the other attempts to break virtual reality into the general market that companies have attempted since the 1990s?

I remember in 1998 at the local State Fair they had these virtual reality setups where you stood inside this ring with a headset on that looked very similar to the Oculus Rift and you basically looked around you like with the OR and moved around in place and that's how you played a primitive first person shooter against others in similar setups.


$50 says it goes the way of the Virtual Boy within a year.

There was a time when I was a satellite imagery interpreter in the military. The nausea is actually something pretty common with looking at stereoscopic video. ...but in the military if it turns out you have colorblindness or persistent nausea you loose your job and get sent to bulk fuel. I remember needing to calibrate stereoscopic equipment for my eyes specifically. There will probably a software way to do this with Oculus Rift. It's rare for somebody to not be able to overcome it. If you can go to a 3D movie and be OK it means your brain can adjust for stereoscopic input. In the olden days they would interlace frames back and forth on your CRT and the glasses would alternate on and off to make the 3D image. I've seen people throw up from that. Sometimes I would turn down the refresh rate just to make new people sick... teach them a lesson about calibrating their profiles. This Rift stuff looks like it's way out in front of what I had... plus it's two independent screens. That's pretty rad.

tl;dr; you'll get over it. Just calibrate your smack carefully and your brain will adjust. Unless it doesn't. Then you're SOL.

I can't wait to get my hands on one, personally. It's a hell of a bargain. The last setup was like 150 grand or something not counting software licencing.

Edit:... and black and white at that.

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