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procurer vs skiff?
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Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#1 - 2013-10-14 17:53:02 UTC
Looking at the attributes I see the following differences:
skiff: ~10% more structure HP (5500 vs 6000) 10% more armor HP (5000 vs 5500)
drones: twice as much capacity and bandwidth
ore capacity: 25% (12K vs 15K)
capacitor: 12.5% (800 vs 900)
max velocity: 122% (90 vs 200)

bonuses: skiff 20% bonus to all shield resistances
skiff 5% strip miner yield (for exhumer lvl 5)

slots: skiff +1 mid -1 rig


Question: Why do people upgrade to the skiff? Isn't the procurer strong enough already compared to the small increase in yield and ore capacity?
Eli Kzanti
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-10-14 18:05:35 UTC
Why do people upgrade from a hurricane to a sleipnir? From a rifter to a wolf?

Because to them its worth it.
Livonia Velorea
The Fiendish Pixies
#3 - 2013-10-14 18:06:50 UTC
It also has 500 more shield, combined with the resist bonus and extra mid slot i'd guess it has a much larger tank by quite a bit.

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Kahega Amielden
Rifterlings
#4 - 2013-10-14 18:29:05 UTC
Shiloh Templeton wrote:
Looking at the attributes I see the following differences:
skiff: ~10% more structure HP (5500 vs 6000) 10% more armor HP (5000 vs 5500)
drones: twice as much capacity and bandwidth
ore capacity: 25% (12K vs 15K)
capacitor: 12.5% (800 vs 900)
max velocity: 122% (90 vs 200)

bonuses: skiff 20% bonus to all shield resistances
skiff 5% strip miner yield (for exhumer lvl 5)

slots: skiff +1 mid -1 rig


Question: Why do people upgrade to the skiff? Isn't the procurer strong enough already compared to the small increase in yield and ore capacity?



For hisec? Sure. For nullsec? Perhaps not.
ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#5 - 2013-10-14 20:28:11 UTC
You'll notice that this trend is everywhere in EVE... where linear increases in power come at exponentially higher costs.

For example: a proper gank-fit frigate can pump out somewhere around 200 damage per second and costs about 10 million... a proper "brawler" battleship puts out about 900 to 1000 damage per second and costs about 300 million altogether.

That's about a 3000% increase in cost for a mere 80% increase in damage.

How did you Veterans start?
Shiloh Templeton
Cheyenne HET Co
#6 - 2013-10-14 20:40:14 UTC  |  Edited by: Shiloh Templeton
Livonia Velorea wrote:
It also has 500 more shield, combined with the resist bonus and extra mid slot i'd guess it has a much larger tank by quite a bit.


Thanks, I was trying to figure out the gain for spending the 30+ days to train into an exhumer vs training something else. I wondered if the extra set of drones was the main benefit, but sounds like it's mostly survivability.
Steve Ronuken
Fuzzwork Enterprises
Vote Steve Ronuken for CSM
#7 - 2013-10-14 20:44:19 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
You'll notice that this trend is everywhere in EVE... where linear increases in power come at exponentially higher costs.

For example: a proper gank-fit frigate can pump out somewhere around 200 damage per second and costs about 10 million... a proper "brawler" battleship puts out about 900 to 1000 damage per second and costs about 300 million altogether.

That's about a 3000% increase in cost for a mere 80% increase in damage.



500% or so.

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ShahFluffers
Ice Fire Warriors
#8 - 2013-10-14 22:10:47 UTC
right, I'm on my phone and doing this off the top of my [sleep deprived] head. I'll come back and edit it correctly later.

How did you Veterans start?
Donbe Scurred
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-10-14 23:22:49 UTC
I realize many don't do mining missions, but if you do them there are quite a few that require slowboating long distances to the rock(s), the exhumers are more than twice as fast as the mining barges.Blink