Player Features and Ideas Discussion

When you kill a player's ship or are involved in its destruction, you lose approximately .3-.4 of your sec status, regardless of whether the ship is worth 5 million or 50 billion ISK.

When you kill a pod, you lose 2.5 or so of your sec status,whether the pod has no implants or a full set of crystals (~3 billion).

This security status loss does not appear to have any bearing on the value of the ISK destroyed nor the severity (or lack thereof) of the crime committed.


What this means is that you can blow up billions of ISK worth of ships, but shoot so much as a single alpha-clone pod and you can expect a security status loss commensurate with having murdered 10 to 15 highsec ships.


This doesn't make any sense. Podkilling shouldn't be incurring so much of a loss--what's so devastating about it compared to the ISK loss from ships like a 50 billion ISK freighter? Meanwhile, pilots who shoot such expensive ships get off with the slightest of scratches to their security status.

The solution: lessen pod security status loss to -1.0 or so, while increasing security status loss for ship destruction to twice what it is already--so -.6 or so. Pod killing is unjustly penalized, while ship killing is too lightly penalized. This change can fix that problem.

Alas, if only I could make everyone else do the same.

No. I won't. It's too easy for them to earn money there; too easy for them to grow rich and fat without penalty; too difficult to engage and destroy some while too easy to annihilate others.

I personally don't wanna hear about this Luxury Problem.

Especially now that you can buy back your sec status with ISK.

Gimme a break.

wardec them.

posting in a stealth nerf sec hit for ganking in highsec post

Gank miners.

They tend to have their drones set to aggressive.

That limited-engagement-timer means no Sec loss.

Job's a good'un.

Ganking as an outlaw is harder but the fun is in the challenge, right?

(Challenge in this context means the odds are massively weighted in the potentially-ganked-player's favour.)

Of course not.
Your decision in how much ISK value you choose to cart around in the galaxy is meant to provide increased risks for you, not for the attacker. it is not meant to be a shield to hide behind.

He's being punished for attacking another player's ship or pod, because that's really the only thing that matters on his end. How much you've chosen to lose today is your problem and your problem alone — there's no reason it should have any bearing on him.

As for the ship vs. pod distinction, one just makes you lose a bit of ISK; the other puts months worth of actual time at risk. If you lose a ship, you can just buy a new one and be on your way; recovery is trivial. If you lose two weeks of training, you now have to retrain those two weeks and will forever more be two weeks behind where you could have been; recovery is impossible because that time is gone forever. So of course the latter is punished more than the former.

I still don't see why CCP doesn't add a "Lawyer" skill that reduces security status lost on aggression by 5% per level.