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PLEX For name Change!

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Pure Sacrifice
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-10-12 16:06:36 UTC  |  Edited by: ISD Tyrozan
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Mag's
Azn Empire
#2 - 2013-10-12 16:09:27 UTC
Pure Sacrifice wrote:
and yes I searched the forums - eat adick

Oh really?

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Simc0m
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#3 - 2013-10-12 16:14:09 UTC
This is probably the most common feature idea. CCP MAKE IT HAPPEN!!
Pure Sacrifice
Perkone
Caldari State
#4 - 2013-10-12 16:21:28 UTC
Mag's wrote:
Pure Sacrifice wrote:
and yes I searched the forums - eat adick

Oh really?



He posted in the wrong area - eat adick

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Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2013-10-12 16:43:15 UTC
Pure Sacrifice wrote:
Mag's wrote:
Pure Sacrifice wrote:
and yes I searched the forums - eat adick

Oh really?



He posted in the wrong area - eat adick



No he didn't.

And I've seen dozens of threads asking for EXACTLY THIS.

Go away.
David Kir
Errantry Armaments
#6 - 2013-10-12 19:06:42 UTC
Oh, look, the oompteenth "change my name" thread.

I wonder how'll this one end up?

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Simc0m
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-10-12 20:47:48 UTC
David Kir wrote:
Oh, look, the oompteenth "change my name" thread.

I wonder how'll this one end up?


Lots of support and no word from CCP is my best guess.
Danika Princip
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2013-10-12 21:18:02 UTC
Simc0m wrote:
David Kir wrote:
Oh, look, the oompteenth "change my name" thread.

I wonder how'll this one end up?


Lots of support and no word from CCP is my best guess.



My money is ona lot of people saying 'no, actions have consequences, deal with it', and the OP not posting again.
Octoven
Stellar Production
#9 - 2013-10-12 21:44:26 UTC  |  Edited by: Octoven
Actually I am rather supportive of this idea; however, I agree with the whole actions have consquences. Perhaps this solution will be more favorable. Offer name change for PLEX BUT put previous name in a tab on your character sheet that shows name change history sort of like corporation employment is. For example, lets say I wanted to change my name to Bobalmighty.

I pay the PLEX, and a new tab appears on my character information that shows the time period from which I had the name Octoven.

Name History
Bobalmighty 2013.10.12-present
Octoven 2009.01.21-2013.10.12


This allows people to have new names at a price (PLEX) AND prevents them from basically escaping their past deeds. You could further this by forcing all standings toward that character and from that character towards everyone else that have been set to stay the way they are.
Simc0m
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-10-12 21:48:02 UTC
Octoven wrote:
Actually I am rather supportive of this idea; however, I agree with the whole actions have consquences. Perhaps this solution will be more favorable. Offer name change for PLEX BUT put previous name in a tab on your character sheet that shows name change history sort of like corporation employment is. For example, lets say I wanted to change my name to Bobalmighty.

I pay the PLEX, and a new tab appears on my character information that shows the time period from which I had the name Octoven.

Name History
Bobalmighty 2013.10.12-present
Octoven 2009.01.21-2013.10.12


This allows people to have new names at a price (PLEX) AND prevents them from basically escaping their past deeds. You could further this by forcing all standings toward that character and from that character towards everyone else that have been set to stay the way they are.


This is basically how I imagine it being implemented. It WILL get added eventually, it's just a matter of time.
SOL Ranger
Imperial Armed Forces
#11 - 2013-10-12 23:19:35 UTC
Simc0m wrote:

Lots of support and no word from CCP is my best guess.


I think you greatly overestimate the support and ignore many of the ramifications.

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Simc0m
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-10-12 23:21:18 UTC
SOL Ranger wrote:
I think you greatly overestimate the support and ignore many of the ramifications.


Would be interested in your thoughts on potential ramifications.
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#13 - 2013-10-13 00:33:51 UTC
Personally I feel that not being able to change your toon's name is one of the important factors that balances the character bazaar. It forces you to choose betwen your name and additional SP.
RubyPorto
RubysRhymes
#14 - 2013-10-13 02:15:48 UTC
Pure Sacrifice wrote:
eat adick



That is all.

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SOL Ranger
Imperial Armed Forces
#15 - 2013-10-13 02:43:35 UTC
Simc0m wrote:
SOL Ranger wrote:
I think you greatly overestimate the support and ignore many of the ramifications.


Would be interested in your thoughts on potential ramifications.


1) Bought characters and a rename.

That would essentially kill any unique value of customization in personal characters.

This means that you have two choices, make a new character and be a customized gimp for years, or put up a small penny and buy a fully trained character and then rename it and be a customized winner, instant customized gratification, the "choice" diminishes very quickly with these kinds of changes.

2) Moving towards generic popular features from other games without proper reason.


The rename feature I have to say isn't one which makes much sense, it is a feature created in pop culture gaming focused on milking indecisiveness for cash in games based on zero consequences, just because some people might like it doesn't mean it should be implemented in EVE in any way.
If it was to be implemented it would seriously need to be justified with words greater that "wouldn't it be nice" which is the general consensus from those supporting it.

3) Avoiding consequences and causing irreversible cascading effects.

Consequences aren't supposed to be avoided by wealth, that is what is being proposed here.
The suggestion isn't a universal way to change your name once within a week of starting the game, which is usually a realistic time frame to realize naming mistakes, which could have some merit to it.

This is an attempt to justify PLEX payment as a reason to gain a possibility to avoid consequences, plain and simple; After this change is approved what other consequences can we begin to strip with PLEX next?
PLEX has a use already and all that is being proposed is a slippery slope indeed, for when CCP put these alternative PLEX payments to work due to initial player acceptance, prepare to get anything you want changed in PLEX for X spirit.

If there is a valid reason to solve something then elaborate, just having a wish and offering PLEX payment isn't a reason nor a justification for anything and it is a dangerous path to even start.

4) PLEX prices and ISK farming.

When PLEX has more uses it becomes more popular, that means in essence PLEX prices will rise, when PLEX prices rise people begin to do more ISK farming or dedicate more of their time to it.
This all results in reduces activity in anything not highly profitable, that means risk taking is reduced and effectively PvP is affected. Some players might even quit due to PLEX becoming too expensive, that is a bad thing for a game such as EVE.


Together these issues are quite significant.


The question remains:

Why is allowing renames in EVE a good thing and why should we abolish the permanent naming system?


I keep seeing how and with what payment method, the question is why.

The Vargur requires launcher hardpoints, following tempest tradition.

Anomaly One
Doomheim
#16 - 2013-10-13 03:46:15 UTC
eat adick

is that your signature?

What a bad idea and since you provide NOTHING new

go **** yourself AND eatadick



What would happen to all the scammers and known pirates, imagine this scenario I know someone from low sec that I would bail if I saw him in the same system, now when that someone you know enters a system and he has his name changed if you don't check the "changed name tab" you're pretty much screwed, so if there's potentially 20+ people in that system I have to go through each one and check tabs just for that person again inb4 watchlist everyone.

You chose your name, deal with it.

What little consequence your name has and you want to strip it away (alts online) don't like your name ? how about not selling that character over there on the bazaar and use it.
Oxide Ammar
#17 - 2013-10-13 07:54:08 UTC
Octoven wrote:
Actually I am rather supportive of this idea; however, I agree with the whole actions have consquences. Perhaps this solution will be more favorable. Offer name change for PLEX BUT put previous name in a tab on your character sheet that shows name change history sort of like corporation employment is. For example, lets say I wanted to change my name to Bobalmighty.

I pay the PLEX, and a new tab appears on my character information that shows the time period from which I had the name Octoven.

Name History
Bobalmighty 2013.10.12-present
Octoven 2009.01.21-2013.10.12


This allows people to have new names at a price (PLEX) AND prevents them from basically escaping their past deeds. You could further this by forcing all standings toward that character and from that character towards everyone else that have been set to stay the way they are.


I support this, this is was always in my mind...keep the old names in the bio tab.

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ISD Alliance
#18 - 2013-10-13 17:18:30 UTC
Given that the profanity is quoted in nearly every reply to the original post, this thread is being locked.

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