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Is it ok to report people if they offend and harass me with homophobic terms?

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Doc Severide
Doomheim
#21 - 2013-10-12 13:04:34 UTC
IRL I refuse to donate blood. There are certain "people" I don't want to give mine to...

Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo...
No Means No
meh fackit
#22 - 2013-10-12 13:07:55 UTC
Jessi Burns wrote:
Prince Kobol wrote:
No Means No wrote:

Im just trying to make a point here on how stupid it is thia idea that calling other people fags is an offenssive term, when clearly it is not.. Or else there would be room for lots of other words to be considered offensive.



Here is a test to see if the word is offensive.

Got out to your local town center and walk up to the first group of males you see.

Call them all fags and by their reaction you will find if the term is offensive.


This.

I don't condone homosexuality or the lifestyle associated with it. But, I think everyone has a right to live their life how they please.

Those offensive terms are associated to homosexuality, and therefore when you use it, in any sort of way, it is offensive to everyone. Not just homosexuals.

It's easy to point fingers at how 'stupid' something is until you're the one being segregated.



There is a HUGE difference between words and actions.

I can say whatever the **** i want to someone.. I cant beat him up.
Now in eve ppl use the gms that take action against you just because someone didnt like something that you said.

What YOU think its an offense I think it is not.. I think actions are a lot more offensive than simple words.


But then AGAIN, just wanna bring it down to a clear term.. Is it the word or the meaning?
Jessi Burns
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#23 - 2013-10-12 13:09:13 UTC
No Means No wrote:


If they beat me up i call the cops and they will end up i jail.

while I just go and finish my drink.


You just made your point, i can call ppl fags, its not against the law.

And again is it the word or the meaning? If its the word then we need a list of prohibited words.
If it the meaning then whos in here to judge it? A random gm that cant even sight when someone is trolling?

Lmk..


You assume a lot with this post:

First - That you actually can call the cops quick enough to make a coherent phone call before they break your jaw.

Second - That you can report them to the police at all.

Third - A night in jail might be worth it to bonk punks like you.
No Means No
meh fackit
#24 - 2013-10-12 13:14:51 UTC
Jessi Burns wrote:
No Means No wrote:


If they beat me up i call the cops and they will end up i jail.

while I just go and finish my drink.


You just made your point, i can call ppl fags, its not against the law.

And again is it the word or the meaning? If its the word then we need a list of prohibited words.
If it the meaning then whos in here to judge it? A random gm that cant even sight when someone is trolling?

Lmk..


You assume a lot with this post:

First - That you actually can call the cops quick enough to make a coherent phone call before they break your jaw.

Second - That you can report them to the police at all.

Third - A night in jail might be worth it to bonk punks like you.


Ok your whole post is out of context with the rest of the thread.
Please stay on topic were not in russia where points are made with a baseball bat.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#25 - 2013-10-12 13:17:28 UTC
No Means No wrote:


I can say whatever the **** i want to someone..



No, you can't

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
No Means No
meh fackit
#26 - 2013-10-12 13:27:17 UTC
Ramona McCandless wrote:
No Means No wrote:


I can say whatever the **** i want to someone..



No, you can't


Yes you can...
The law only hits when you phisically engage in an aggressive manner towards someone, even a small touching could be taken as such, but not words directly spoken to one another.
Unless you continuously keep doing, which is not the case of a one time "fags" event obviously.
Jessi Burns
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#27 - 2013-10-12 13:28:34 UTC
No Means No wrote:



Ok your whole post is out of context with the rest of the thread.
Please stay on topic were not in russia where points are made with a baseball bat.


It is completely on topic. The point is that the word is offensive. The WORD. And what are words? A way to convey meaning, a description, something.

So your question, is the word or meaning offensive? Both.

You really need to tell you mom to cancel your sub so you can get out and see the world a bit. You are extraordinarily sheltered.
Jessi Burns
24th Imperial Crusade
Amarr Empire
#28 - 2013-10-12 13:30:29 UTC
No Means No wrote:


Yes you can...
The law only hits when you phisically engage in an aggressive manner towards someone, even a small touching could be taken as such, but not words directly spoken to one another.
Unless you continuously keep doing, which is not the case of a one time "fags" event obviously.


FYI assault is the feeling of endangerment. Battery is physical engagement.

So yes, words are considered assault.

Your feeble attempts at intellegence are humoring. You probably should stop while you're behind.
Steve WingYip
Doomheim
#29 - 2013-10-12 13:31:33 UTC
No Means No wrote:
Like I am gay, and people call me "man" and "bro"..

I dont like that, im not a man...


Same goes when people is straight and we call them fags, we get reported..

So if you call me a man or a bro or some other homophobic term im reporting you.


Can't... tell... if.... troll.... or.... just... soooo.... stupid.....
flakeys
Doomheim
#30 - 2013-10-12 13:33:02 UTC
Prince Kobol wrote:
No Means No wrote:

Im just trying to make a point here on how stupid it is thia idea that calling other people fags is an offenssive term, when clearly it is not.. Or else there would be room for lots of other words to be considered offensive.



Here is a test to see if the word is offensive.

Got out to your local town center and walk up to the first group of males you see.

Call them all fags and by their reaction you will find if the term is offensive.


Either way how they take it , he's gonna have trouble walking for a few days Blink

We are all born ignorant, but one must work hard to remain stupid.
Na Und
Galactronics
#31 - 2013-10-12 13:33:30 UTC
This thread is gay.
Ramona McCandless
Silent Vale
LinkNet
#32 - 2013-10-12 13:39:34 UTC
No Means No wrote:

Yes you can...
The law only hits when you phisically engage in an aggressive manner towards someone, even a small touching could be taken as such, but not words directly spoken to one another.
Unless you continuously keep doing, which is not the case of a one time "fags" event obviously.



No matter what country you live in, your right to say absolutely anything is not protected by law


In some countries, publicly saying various things is punishable under the terms of the law

"Yea, some dude came in and was normal for first couple months, so I gave him director." - Sean Dunaway

"A singular character could be hired to penetrate another corps space... using gorilla like tactics..." - Chane Morgann
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
Insidious.
#33 - 2013-10-12 13:41:10 UTC
society is not run on logic
SKINE DMZ
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-10-12 14:14:46 UTC
Jessi Burns wrote:

So yes, words are considered assault.
.

Actually they're not.

I disagree
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#35 - 2013-10-12 14:15:58 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
No Means No wrote:
If they beat me up i call the cops and they will end up i jail.

while I just go
…in front of a judge and get slapped with hefty fines. In fact, it's not entirely unlikely that they'll get a lower sentencing than you do.

Quote:
Yes you can.
Only in the sense that you can kill anyone you want. But from a legal perspective, no, you can't. Hate speech and abuse is pretty much universally excluded from free speech (if such a thing is even legally provided), and for good reason.
Seven Koskanaiken
Shadow Legions.
Insidious.
#36 - 2013-10-12 14:26:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Seven Koskanaiken
Jessi Burns wrote:
No Means No wrote:


Yes you can...
The law only hits when you phisically engage in an aggressive manner towards someone, even a small touching could be taken as such, but not words directly spoken to one another.
Unless you continuously keep doing, which is not the case of a one time "fags" event obviously.


FYI assault is the feeling of endangerment. Battery is physical engagement.

So yes, words are considered assault.

Your feeble attempts at intellegence are humoring. You probably should stop while you're behind.


Assault is only if you put them in immediate fear. The sort of stuff on eve would prob come under a public order offense, like how people get arrested for stuff they post on twitter against celebrities. I think the question is, once plod sees that your eve account doesn't have your real name on top of it to make an easy arrest, are they gonna bother requesting account details and stuff from iceland. Doubt it.
destiny2
Decaying Rocky Odious Non Evil Stupid Inane Nobody
Rogue Drone Recovery Syndicate
#37 - 2013-10-12 14:31:03 UTC
eve has a nice feature, called the Block button Shocked
Omar Alharazaad
New Eden Tech Support
#38 - 2013-10-12 14:34:47 UTC
No Means No wrote:
Ramona McCandless wrote:
No Means No wrote:


I can say whatever the **** i want to someone..



No, you can't


Yes you can...
The law only hits when you phisically engage in an aggressive manner towards someone, even a small touching could be taken as such, but not words directly spoken to one another.
Unless you continuously keep doing, which is not the case of a one time "fags" event obviously.


Dunno what country you're from, but here in the US there are two notions you should keep in mind.
The first is "Verbal Assault", yes, it's real. and yes, they can arrest you for it.
The second is the concept of "Aggravated Assault", as in you provoked them into beating the snot out of you.
Lighten the hell up, but at the same time don't be a douchetard. Seriously.

Come hell or high water, this sick world will know I was here.
Felicity Love
Doomheim
#39 - 2013-10-12 14:35:10 UTC
People using derogatory terms and slang on EVE ? Nooooooooooo... say it isn't so. Roll

"EVE is dying." -- The Four Forum Trolls of the Apocalypse.   ( Pick four, any four. They all smell.  )
Arduemont
Rotten Legion
#40 - 2013-10-12 14:38:20 UTC  |  Edited by: Arduemont
Jessi Burns wrote:

I don't condone homosexuality or the lifestyle associated with it.


I don't condone prejudice homophobic ignorant hick cunts or the lifestyle associated with them.

"In the age of information, ignorance is a choice." www.stateofwar.co.nf