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The Most Efficient Non-Faction L4 Mission Ship?
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Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci
Itsukame-Zainou Hyperspatial Inquiries Ltd.
Arataka Research Consortium
#1 - 2013-10-11 03:46:11 UTC
I'm curious as to what the best choice all around is for L4s- I fly an Apocalypse, but I want to do better; what options do I have?

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Azedi Zucow
Kybernauts
Kybernauts Clade
#2 - 2013-10-11 04:03:09 UTC
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stoicfaux
#3 - 2013-10-11 04:31:02 UTC
Most efficient at: Blitzing for LP? ISK per tick? Building up standings? Cost efficient (i.e. T2 versus Bling?)

Can you cherry-pick missions? What NPC space do you fly in? Afk? etc..



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Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-10-11 04:46:47 UTC
For you, with support skills in gunnery, probably Mael. You should already have beefy cap skills. So just train up shield skills, large guns and matari bs.

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Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#5 - 2013-10-11 05:22:22 UTC
If you're talking about T1 BS, I like the Raven or Typhoon personally, and they are pretty darn efficient. If your skills are mostly in gunnery a Maelstrom is good too, however if you're flying in Amarr space it is likely that the Apocalypse will do just as well if not better.
Caitlyn Tufy
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-10-11 05:28:39 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
I'm curious as to what the best choice all around is for L4s- I fly an Apocalypse, but I want to do better; what options do I have?


If you're in Amarr space, then Navy Apocalypse -> build up your Caldari battleship and shield skills -> Nightmare. Navy Geddon works too if you have decent drone skills.

If you're not in Amarr space, the above won't work, you'll have to find another race's ship or go with something that doesn't depend on lasers (such as Armageddon, Typhoon, Raven, Dominix).
Aivo Dresden
State War Academy
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-10-11 10:56:27 UTC
The answer to every question like this, is always Dominix. Sentry drones FTW. :P
Intermolecular
My Own Little Tax Haven
#8 - 2013-10-11 12:26:18 UTC
Uriel Paradisi Anteovnuecci wrote:
I'm curious as to what the best choice all around is for L4s- I fly an Apocalypse, but I want to do better; what options do I have?


If you're sticking to just Amarr space and to just T1 BS's so no Navy Apoc/Nightmare etc then the normal Apocalypse is probably your bread and butter ship. With decent skills it can project Scorch out to around 75k optimal (570ish dps) then around 15k fall off iirc. It just works.

I fly an Abaddon for Amarr Level 4's purely because I fancied something different, it has worse cap than the Apoc, less range but a decent bump in DPS. It makes things more interesting and in most cases more efficient as long as you have pretty good skills however it's not a very forgiving ship for low SP people.



If you're flying outwith Amarr space then you can probably narrow it down to 3 choices:

Dominix, Raven or Typhoon.

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The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-10-11 13:38:17 UTC
Dominix, Armageddon, Raven, Typhoon

MJD fits on these are pretty good. Raven and Typhoon work wonders with regular fits, too. Armageddon should skip Gardes and go with racial drones to have the required range without fitting a ton of mods.
Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-10-11 16:11:08 UTC
The Spod wrote:
Dominix, Armageddon, Raven, Typhoon

MJD fits on these are pretty good. Raven and Typhoon work wonders with regular fits, too. Armageddon should skip Gardes and go with racial drones to have the required range without fitting a ton of mods.


Actually, with the Armageddon's 375m3 drone bay, I'd suggest carrying a set of racial-specific drones and a set of Gardes, to take care of large ships that get in uncomfortably close (they may have the shortest range, but they've got the best tracking and the highest damage potential).

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Dato Koppla
Balls Deep Inc.
Minmatar Fleet Alliance
#11 - 2013-10-12 02:28:45 UTC
Marc Callan wrote:
The Spod wrote:
Dominix, Armageddon, Raven, Typhoon

MJD fits on these are pretty good. Raven and Typhoon work wonders with regular fits, too. Armageddon should skip Gardes and go with racial drones to have the required range without fitting a ton of mods.


Actually, with the Armageddon's 375m3 drone bay, I'd suggest carrying a set of racial-specific drones and a set of Gardes, to take care of large ships that get in uncomfortably close (they may have the shortest range, but they've got the best tracking and the highest damage potential).


Thermal is also best or second best against most NPCs.
Garak n00biachi
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-10-12 23:27:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Garak n00biachi
Raven and "efficient"....yeah if you laser fit it like on some ******** CCP poster maybe......


There is only 1 ship that doesnt give a **** bout TD,ECM damps neuts and what not......your 5 sentries will keep on going like a 1989 duracell bunny....Domi=efficient.