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Black Eagles cracking down on holofilm industry?

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Kaid Hayden
Seven Stars Search and Rescue
#21 - 2013-10-08 13:44:12 UTC
I'd say it's pretty inherently bad for an industry, and a culture, that has built its (arguable) greatness on free expression to have that free expression curbed by a borderline-fascist state surveillance apparatus. Although being politically opposed to that same borderline-fascist state surveillance apparatus, I have to say I like it when they do my work for me and prove that there are no sufficient checks and balances to reign in a borderline-fascist state surveillance apparatus when it gets into gear. It's in its nature to push the envelope of what it can and can't do. This time it was a clownish display of incompetence from their part, but it shows their willingness to oppress dissidents. What else is the borderline-fascist state surveillance apparatus known as the Black Eagles doing that we don't hear about?
Nauplius
Hoi Andrapodistai
#22 - 2013-10-08 13:53:35 UTC
Anabella Rella wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
I approve of this technology and suggest that it be licensed or otherwise appropriated for imperial use.

They who write sentences against the Empress or the Reclaiming should receive a knock on the door from Ministry of Internal Order agents carrying a slave collar and their first dose of Vitoc.


You're so filled with rage and hatred. Did your mommy not breast feed you long enough or give you enough hugs when you were an infant? I'm betting your current issues stem from a difficult time with toilet training. Poor child.


Zeal that God's will be done is not rage and hatred; nor is taking pleasure when God's will is made manifest in the world.

When the day comes that I look down from the shiny golden towers of heaven onto the Gallente and unredeemed Minmatar burning forever in the Pit below, my smile will not be from malice but from joy in God glory being increased by the defeat of the Wicked.

What I want for you and other members of the Minmatar Militia is that you be saved, and the only way you can do that is by submission to the one and only instrument God has provided for your redemption in this world — the Amarr Empire.

Amen. Amarr Victor.
Andrea Okazon
Laurentson INC
#23 - 2013-10-08 16:22:24 UTC
I really wouldn't take him too seriously, Ms. Rella. It seems like the Empire has just started implanting capsuleer wiring into retirement-home residents as a cost-savings measure.
Etienne Saissore
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#24 - 2013-10-08 19:15:11 UTC
Sorjat wrote:
I do like the Gutter Press. Truly, I do. I think because they dare to report where no other reporter dares to go they are living up to the highest ideals of Gallentean society. Individual Liberty!

That being said, I am also no fool. I can assure Pilot Raker that if anyone actually identified themselves as a member of SDII, then you can be absolutely certain that those folks do not belong to that organization. When those cloak and dagger folks "introduce" themselves... its usually with a black hood over your head, ski masks over theirs and neural probes attached to your skull. Knocking on a door and threatening!! Puh-lease. That is so beneath them as to be laughable. They'd sooner shoot you than threaten you! Who do you think your dealing with?

I think you should interview your witness again. Did he observe his visitors departure? Did they fly away in Kestrels? Personally, I think you make a far more convincing plot for a classic 'Diana Kim' operation!

You are raising a valid question, M Sorjat, there does seem to be something fishy about this encounter with these "SDII members". It is difficult to see why genuine government employees would so openly and blatantly create a scene like this, clearly against the standards of acceptable conduct. However, I don't think Gutter Press, whose reporting has proven to be accurate and reliable world-view building material time and time again, is to be blamed here.

The question is, why would an Impetus employee claim there is something forbidden about their next upcoming romantic action release? Would it perhaps increase the public interest in the title, even make it to the news? What effect all this publicity would have on the sales?

I think this smells suspiciously like a word-of-mouth marketing campaign.
Diana Kim
State Protectorate
Caldari State
#25 - 2013-10-09 04:03:00 UTC
Nauplius wrote:
Anabella Rella wrote:
Nauplius wrote:
I approve of this technology and suggest that it be licensed or otherwise appropriated for imperial use.

They who write sentences against the Empress or the Reclaiming should receive a knock on the door from Ministry of Internal Order agents carrying a slave collar and their first dose of Vitoc.


You're so filled with rage and hatred. Did your mommy not breast feed you long enough or give you enough hugs when you were an infant? I'm betting your current issues stem from a difficult time with toilet training. Poor child.


Zeal that God's will be done is not rage and hatred; nor is taking pleasure when God's will is made manifest in the world.

When the day comes that I look down from the shiny golden towers of heaven onto the Gallente and unredeemed Minmatar burning forever in the Pit below, my smile will not be from malice but from joy in God glory being increased by the defeat of the Wicked.

What I want for you and other members of the Minmatar Militia is that you be saved, and the only way you can do that is by submission to the one and only instrument God has provided for your redemption in this world — the Amarr Empire.

Amen. Amarr Victor.

I commend your big heart and desire to help and save peoples.
However, some things are better be annihilated and left forgotten instead of saved.
And this tribal Rella is an outstanding example of such things.

Honored are the dead, for their legacy guides us.

In memory of Tibus Heth, Caldari State Executor YC110-115, Hero and Patriot.

Sorjat
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#26 - 2013-10-09 16:46:17 UTC
Just reviewing this file after having been away for a few days and ...

Good Lord Gentlemen!! (Pardon the reference). What have you done? Engaged in a deep philosophical debate about history, humanism, religion, Federal Politics and the Word in a Gutter Press Release!!?? Are you crazy?? Do you realize the damage you could do to Pilot Raker? The trauma of reading all that may have caused shock, catatonia and death! She may not be even in her pod and make it to her clone...

If I find out that Pilot Raker or any of the Gutter Press' staff have been harmed by your missives I might feel obliged to put bounties on your heads!! Perhaps Fred and Constantin should each sponsor a lecture series at the University of Caille and maintain residences close to each other. This is the GUTTER PRESS gentlemen. Please keep all responses short, dismissive and bordering on pointless!

Constantine, I think Fred articulated a very academic and widely held view that is not uncommon among most atheistic societies. My less polished view, but not without some merit:

The word "Demand" incurs distrust.
The word "Command" incurs wrath.
The word "Taxes" incurs rebellion.

Learn those words and use them wisely in your preaching among Gallenteans! Avoid them and even Fred might join your religion. Utter them at your peril!

Do not confuse the multiple paradoxes of Gallente society with an inability to act, to organize or to pick a direction. We may not have certainty but that isn't required to do any of those things. Nor even near-certainty.

As for threats...(not directed at anyone in particular)... isn't that a little beneath an immortal?

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Etienne Saissore wrote:


You are raising a valid question, M Sorjat, there does seem to be something fishy about this encounter with these "SDII members". It is difficult to see why genuine government employees would so openly and blatantly create a scene like this, clearly against the standards of acceptable conduct. However, I don't think Gutter Press, whose reporting has proven to be accurate and reliable world-view building material time and time again, is to be blamed here.

The question is, why would an Impetus employee claim there is something forbidden about their next upcoming romantic action release? Would it perhaps increase the public interest in the title, even make it to the news? What effect all this publicity would have on the sales?

I think this smells suspiciously like a word-of-mouth marketing campaign.


Pilot Saissore, you raise a very interesting point! Do you think that the Gutter Press could stoop to fomenting conspiracy theories about the Black Eagles to promote a cheap Gallente holoreel??

Interesting theory and it has been given some credibility by Pilot Kim's flatout denial of any involvement. I certainly hope it isn't true because if they made up this story about being 'visited by Black Eagles' as just an attempt at self-promotion well... Pilot Raker could be in a lot of trouble. You really don't want to be spreading conspiracy theories about a group of folks that are truly above the law...

A story like that could get her a real visit from Black Eagles and she could be sitting in an interrogation room with neural probes attached to her head... I noticed that she has gone very silent lately... I do hope she is ok.

Insanity is not hubris, not pride; it is inflation of the ego to its ultimate - confusion between him who worships and that which is worshipped. Man has not eaten God; God has eaten man.

-- PKD

Etienne Saissore
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#27 - 2013-10-10 18:19:48 UTC
Sorjat wrote:
Pilot Saissore, you raise a very interesting point! Do you think that the Gutter Press could stoop to fomenting conspiracy theories about the Black Eagles to promote a cheap Gallente holoreel??

Interesting theory and it has been given some credibility by Pilot Kim's flatout denial of any involvement. I certainly hope it isn't true because if they made up this story about being 'visited by Black Eagles' as just an attempt at self-promotion well... Pilot Raker could be in a lot of trouble. You really don't want to be spreading conspiracy theories about a group of folks that are truly above the law...

A story like that could get her a real visit from Black Eagles and she could be sitting in an interrogation room with neural probes attached to her head... I noticed that she has gone very silent lately... I do hope she is ok.

My belief is that Gutter Press has been accurately reporting the information they have received, and it is Impetus which has framed the scene to promote their upcoming holoreel. And I'm pretty sure the enthusiastic following Impetus productions enjoy across the cluster allows them more wiggle room in many affairs than what the more cut-and-dry businesses have.

I suppose the only way to really know whether this romantic film, where the Heth's name is being shouted in the middle of the action, is obscene enough to trigger the sensors of Black Eagles operatives, is to watch it.

If this theory is true, media mogul Raker hasn't done anything actionable here. However, if we won't hear from her soon, maybe it might be a good idea to send a few petitions to the mailbox of monsieur Thou Gaterau.
Sorjat
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#28 - 2013-10-11 15:58:12 UTC
Captain Saissore, I think your on to something...

"Mogul Raker hasn't done anything actionable here."

That is a matter of opinion. Some folks have been 'drone struck' for far, far less than what she has done...

Instead of appealing to Thou Gatererau I think a direct appeal to Capsuleers is probably more effective! I think I will write a petition based on the suspicions we have discussed.

Insanity is not hubris, not pride; it is inflation of the ego to its ultimate - confusion between him who worships and that which is worshipped. Man has not eaten God; God has eaten man.

-- PKD

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