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Sebastor Cane
The Outlet
#1 - 2013-10-07 20:23:44 UTC
Hello


I have a few questions i would like to throw out to the denizens of EVE for their input.

I moving out of highsec and im looking to roam deep nullsec/lowsec for a while either belt ratting/anons or plexing. But i need a ship to fly that i can use to move around without getting ganked (to often) and an area to move to

I have found that most of the time once you get past the first gatecamp you are free to roam in an empty blackness unless you hit a pipe. I spent a lot of time running around Russian space in a cloaked tengu trying to avoid the locals while plexing. I also spent a lot of time around Goon space which was interesting. Once they lock you into a system they poor out of the woodwork.

1. Question. Where is the most dangerous part of nullsec for strangers in your opinion
2. Which faction space is quietest in deep nullsec

3. Which of the ships below would you choose to take into deep nullsec. They are all different and some of them limited you to a certain area/cannot probe/have low DPS. I have isk to burn but i cant pay out 1 billion ever couple of days although if i take a battleship in nullsec ill go viar Wormhole space. Lastly i have never been caught although i have never taken anything bigger than a cruiser into nullsec

Thanks for reading and your input.




Ship of choice


1. Tengu.
average DPS with covert cloak
Finite missiles supply
Can fit probes for plex.
Good damage projection
Good for nullsec

2. Legion.
Terrible DPS with covert cloak
Infinite ammo
Can fit probes
Medium damage projection
Good for nulllsec

3. Proteus
Good DPS with Covert cloak
Finite ammo supply
Can fit probes
No real damage projection. no GTFU potential
Good for nullsec

4. Pilgrim
Terrible DPS for ratting
Infinite "ammo"
Can fit probes and a covert cloak
Good damage projection
Drones are now eaten alive by rats.
Good for lowsec

Ships without a covert cloak using MWD/cloak trick

5. Gila
Good dps
limited ammo unless you conserve missiles and use drones only
Can fit probes and a cloak
can use five sentries
Lowsec/ or expendable nullsec

6. Ishtar
Good DPS
Limited ammo unless you conserve ammo and use drones only
can ft drones and probe
Can use five sentries
Lowsec/or expendable nullsec

7. Domi (it has no other name)
Good DPS
Limited ammo unless you conserve ammo and use drones only
can fit drones and probe
Can use five sentries
Lowsec/or expendable nullsec

Expensive and more interesting options

8. Nightmare
Superb DPS
Superb damage projection
Unlimited Ammo.
Can fit cloak and probe
Very vulnerable on gates
Very dead on nullsec gates with bubble.

9. Rattlesnake
Good DPS
Limited ammo unless you conserve ammo and use drones only
can fit cloak and probe
Can use five sentries
Lowsec/or expendable nullsec
Very tough

10. Armageddon Navy issue
Superb DPS
Superb damage projection
Unlimited Ammo
Can fit cloak only
Can use five sentries
Lowsec/or expendable nullsec
Sansha/blood raiders region only
Cheap

11. Marauders-Paladin (all of the rest have finite ammo)
Superb DPS
Superb damage projection
Unlimited Ammo
Can fit cloak and probes
Lowsec/or expendable nullsec

12. Black Ops Redeemer
Good DPS
Superb damage projection
Unlimited ammo
Can fit cloak and probes
Can travel in lowsec and nullsec (nullsec will need a cyno alt)
Can fit five sentries (but nothing else

13. Black OPs Panther
Good DPS
Can fit cloak and probes
Can travel in lowsec and nullsec (nullsec will need a cyno alt)
Fastest battleship in the game and can warp from cloaked.
Hard to catch
Finite ammo But can fit five sentries and mediums and lights

14. Black Ops Sin
Good DPS
Can fit cloak and probes
Can travel in lowsec and nullsec (nullsec will need a cyno alt)
Finite ammo But can fit five sentries and mediums and lights
Mekkimaru
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-10-07 20:41:37 UTC
yes

"What you don't get is that EvE is the most handholding, casual game ever. It is like farmville. No competition for people that want to put time in it. EvE is the most casual game of all times." - Caesarion Prime 2013
Cass Lie
State War Academy
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-10-07 20:45:52 UTC  |  Edited by: Cass Lie
Questions 1 + 2: It is usually inadvisable to rat in NPC null, though there may be exceptions on occasion. For the rest, the in game map (+ Dotlan if needed) is the best tool. The war zones shift from time to time, you will have to be flexible, but I imagine that won't be much of a problem.

Question 3: Stick to the cruisers. And preferably pick the right one for a specific region (someone will hopefully chime in with an advice what is good where, I am not really sure about all the rat/plex types).

By the way, this playstyle will get more interesting with Rubicon and the deployable space yurts (and the threat of lurking hostile interceptors).
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#4 - 2013-10-07 21:37:32 UTC
Couldn't bother myself to read the entire thing, but normally the answer to questions like these is join a corp that does what you want to do you numpty

"The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."
Baggo Hammers
#5 - 2013-10-07 23:10:18 UTC
I use a T3.

1 and 2 vary all the time.

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.
Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#6 - 2013-10-07 23:27:01 UTC
Job Valador wrote:
"I didn't read the question, but I'm going to try answering it anyways."

Katrina Oniseki
Job Valador
Professional Amateurs
#7 - 2013-10-08 00:20:56 UTC
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
Job Valador wrote:
"I didn't read the question, but I'm going to try answering it anyways."



Cool

"The stone exhibited a profound lack of movement."
Garandras
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-10-08 02:50:47 UTC
Go to provi

They have a silly NRDS rule
ACE McFACE
Dirt 'n' Glitter
Local Is Primary
#9 - 2013-10-08 05:45:09 UTC
Yeah just rat in providence and don't be too mean to CVA.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Infinity Ziona
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-10-08 06:50:33 UTC  |  Edited by: Infinity Ziona
1. NPC Null / Chokes most dangerous

2. Currently Period Basis and Paragon Soul are dead quiet.

3. I started out using a T3 but tried the Ishtar and now I'm 100% Ishtar.


900 dps. 1800 tank kin therm. 730 m/s. Cap stable with all mods perma running. Very small sig and great agility. Its not really catchable with cloak unless you seriously fek up and you're not patient (go watch a movie when people try to camp you and use a scout).

Slightly expensive but its made me several billion now so even blowing up I'm still looking at a good profit.

CCP Fozzie “We can see how much money people are making in nullsec and it is, a gigantic amount, a shit-ton… in null sec anomalies. “*

Kaalrus pwned..... :)
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#11 - 2013-10-08 09:54:50 UTC
Sebastor Cane wrote:
Hello


I have a few questions i would like to throw out to the denizens of EVE for their input.

I moving out of highsec and im looking to roam deep nullsec/lowsec for a while either belt ratting/anons or plexing. But i need a ship to fly that i can use to move around without getting ganked (to often) and an area to move to

I have found that most of the time once you get past the first gatecamp you are free to roam in an empty blackness unless you hit a pipe. I spent a lot of time running around Russian space in a cloaked tengu trying to avoid the locals while plexing. I also spent a lot of time around Goon space which was interesting. Once they lock you into a system they poor out of the woodwork.

1. Question. Where is the most dangerous part of nullsec for strangers in your opinion
2. Which faction space is quietest in deep nullsec

3. Which of the ships below would you choose to take into deep nullsec. They are all different and some of them limited you to a certain area/cannot probe/have low DPS. I have isk to burn but i cant pay out 1 billion ever couple of days although if i take a battleship in nullsec ill go viar Wormhole space. Lastly i have never been caught although i have never taken anything bigger than a cruiser into nullsec

Thanks for reading and your input.




Ship of choice


1. Tengu.
average DPS with covert cloak
Finite missiles supply
Can fit probes for plex.
Good damage projection
Good for nullsec

2. Legion.
Terrible DPS with covert cloak
Infinite ammo
Can fit probes
Medium damage projection
Good for nulllsec

3. Proteus
Good DPS with Covert cloak
Finite ammo supply
Can fit probes
No real damage projection. no GTFU potential
Good for nullsec

4. Pilgrim
Terrible DPS for ratting
Infinite "ammo"
Can fit probes and a covert cloak
Good damage projection
Drones are now eaten alive by rats.
Good for lowsec

Ships without a covert cloak using MWD/cloak trick

5. Gila
Good dps
limited ammo unless you conserve missiles and use drones only
Can fit probes and a cloak
can use five sentries
Lowsec/ or expendable nullsec

6. Ishtar
Good DPS
Limited ammo unless you conserve ammo and use drones only
can ft drones and probe
Can use five sentries
Lowsec/or expendable nullsec

7. Domi (it has no other name)
Good DPS
Limited ammo unless you conserve ammo and use drones only
can fit drones and probe
Can use five sentries
Lowsec/or expendable nullsec

Expensive and more interesting options

8. Nightmare
Superb DPS
Superb damage projection
Unlimited Ammo.
Can fit cloak and probe
Very vulnerable on gates
Very dead on nullsec gates with bubble.

9. Rattlesnake
Good DPS
Limited ammo unless you conserve ammo and use drones only
can fit cloak and probe
Can use five sentries
Lowsec/or expendable nullsec
Very tough

10. Armageddon Navy issue
Superb DPS
Superb damage projection
Unlimited Ammo
Can fit cloak only
Can use five sentries
Lowsec/or expendable nullsec
Sansha/blood raiders region only
Cheap

11. Marauders-Paladin (all of the rest have finite ammo)
Superb DPS
Superb damage projection
Unlimited Ammo
Can fit cloak and probes
Lowsec/or expendable nullsec

12. Black Ops Redeemer
Good DPS
Superb damage projection
Unlimited ammo
Can fit cloak and probes
Can travel in lowsec and nullsec (nullsec will need a cyno alt)
Can fit five sentries (but nothing else

13. Black OPs Panther
Good DPS
Can fit cloak and probes
Can travel in lowsec and nullsec (nullsec will need a cyno alt)
Fastest battleship in the game and can warp from cloaked.
Hard to catch
Finite ammo But can fit five sentries and mediums and lights

14. Black Ops Sin
Good DPS
Can fit cloak and probes
Can travel in lowsec and nullsec (nullsec will need a cyno alt)
Finite ammo But can fit five sentries and mediums and lights










15. the new sisters of eve cruiser.
cov ops cloak.
probing bonus.
can run the sites.
with the new fitting module/structure coming u will be able to switch modules to run the data and salvage sites.
looks to be tailor made for your needs and out in a few weeks.

Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#12 - 2013-10-08 12:55:11 UTC
Come to Providence, earn your spot in heaven.

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.