EVE General Discussion

the real meta is that ccp wants to make money off their product called eve online?... that's deep... real deep

CCP give away hundreds of billions of ISK worth of unique ships every year.

They also give away special edition ships for commercial reasons every year.

ships ain't even the issue.

And yet another CSM member confirming that we have nothing to await from them.

The issue I have with a business relationship between SOMER and CCP is that if they are going to be/behave like business partners, then they should be held acountable as such.

This means that SOMER members need to be held to the same standards as CCP employees with regards to their interaction with the game as players. If they are unwilling to do this, then it compromises the integrity of the game.

On a different but related subject, I understand that there are individuals who were formerly associated with SOMER Blink who are now employed by CCP. There are rumors that CCP Navigator is one of them. Before the tinfoil gets layed on too thick, can anyone provide any facts/evidence to either confirm or disprove this? I think this would be an important piece of information to have, as either way it could significantly impact the discussion, but it most definitely needs verification before being taken into consideration.

Giveaways from CCP directly to winners of contests versus enriching a corporation to hundreds of billions so they can give the prizes away, gaining brand awareness, increased traffic and revenue.

Giving awards to people who perform a valuable service for the community versus enriching people who 'work' for a corporation and earn billions for doing so.

There are two options here if you don't understand the difference between these points, you're either utterly incapable of comprehending the difference between charity and enrichment, or you're just shilling for CCP.

Which is it?

You've thrown your support behind everything and nothing at the same time.

Well the question of whether SOMER is involved in RMT or not has more to do with what is considered RMT and what isn't, rather than any debate on the veracity of the evidence presented.

I petitioned the matter and was told that they've already looked into it and concluded that SOMER is not doing RMT.

That's not terribly relevant to this discussion, however.

I know! Let's PROMOTE our relationship by us giving you some valuable and shiny ships. But SHUSH! Don't tell anyone!

Still no response from CCP? Come on....

If you believe this is jealousy (and this really does explain the csm's reaction if they share this thought) Then at least in my case your wrong. This should not be happening to anyone giving out anything more than a plex or a free account is seriously game changing unless they've done something to earn it in game like win a tourny. I'm really sorry you feel this way and I think your missing the point.

This isn't about somer either but I'll use them as an example. If they now take the profits from selling these ships and from the lotteries from the other give aways they can potentially use hundreds of billions of isk (if not a trillion) to fund an alliance or a coalition and break the balance of eve online. While this is content creation and would be good for the game in the long run it is unfair that ccp has anything to do with this.

I'm not a member of one of the big coalitions I'm just a scrub in a lowsec corp atm. This won't effect me in a really big way but its not fair or part of the sandbox that ccp should be affecting it like this. People need to work hard in game for in game benefits. If they want to support these sites then give them out of game loot, Support for running their servers or a special non sellable item which can't be transferred or a in game medal which means they have some bragging power not some game changing items.

Do ccp have a PR guy because any decent one would tear his or her hair out at a company not looking at us and wondering maybe they might get annoyed.