EVE General Discussion

It's not "overly sensitive types".

It's the fact that we're playing a sandbox game which depends on CCP having a laissez-faire approach to the way that players provide content to the game.

If CCP rewards certain organizations for the content they provide and not others, it drastically alters the motivations for providing content and as a result people will provide different kinds of content. Then content providers are no longer community-oriented, they're appeasement-oriented. And that's severely damaging to the kind of game that EVE is.

EVE is a hobby to us. It's as real as any other hobby. Just because it's pixels generated by a client that receives data from a computer program running on a server in London, doesn't mean that we're not engaging in an environment where actions have consequences and meaning.

Seriously, CCP should apologize to some of the real fansites / program developers who actually have positively contributed much more to Eve and it's community, first and foremost, Chribba, and the developers of EFT and EveMon, just to name a few.

While the Eve related gambling websites, which are parasites, feeding off gambling addicts, are getting rewarded for being such a great cash cow to CCP, has CCP ever even thanked these real fansites for making Eve an even better experience?

basically, it's like this, people didn't realize the real meta is the making money for ccp competition

now you know

1. Start your own successful EVE casino.
2. Receive unique ships from CCP as a gift.
3. Profit


.. are you jealous?

Are you stupid?

Upon reflection, something occurred to me. Somer got rewarded TWICE. Once with the scorps, once with the drawing. That's a whole lot of rewardin' goin' on.

Between free accounts for fansites and giant piles of ISK, CCP has expertly managed to undermine EVE-related journalism (if it can be called that). Bloggers and site operators now have an incentive to engage in self-censorship and cheerleading. After all, who wants to cheat themselves out of assloads of ISK? It's all the more concerning because a significant portion of the CSM have sites or are closely affiliated with one. I'm not making a straight up accusation, but this is precisely why professional news organizations have such strict ethics guidelines. It's the reason that Amazon, Yelp, and other internet sites fight so hard against fake reviews and the like. Giving and receiving gifts or money fundamentally undermines confidence in the product and the sites themselves.

If the basic argument that many of the CSM are making is "CCP can do whatever they want, it's their game," my question is where is the line? If there is none, then we start getting into old school tinfoil hattery, but this time, it will have an actual basis in fact. And once the theorizing begins, it will never end. Will they begin justifying other actions on the basis of player retention or new player recruitment? How will we be able to tell? If anyone thinks CCP's eventual list of rules for this stuff will clear it all up, you obviously haven't been playing EVE for long.

There really isn't any point in continuing this thread. The die is cast *cough*. Your only real decision is whether to log on or log off. If you choose to log on, you can STFU already, because you're simply validating their decisions.

Are you stupid?