EVE General Discussion

I will be happy to act as non-custodian, ensuring any funds are transferred between the single player to verify fairness. I will be totally impartial, smashed and completely unnaccounted for.

I will only accept a ccp-endorsed service.

Because when god itself tells you someone is honest, you can't do better than that

Of course "Zee Space Plane" knows what Chribba has done.

But as one of the recipients of the Ishukone Scorp, they can hardly post on their main...

LOL. If only you all applied so much conviction and vigor to stuff outside a computer game, the world would be a better place.

Of course somer blink is a scam - they are a casino ferchrissakes, and every single blink finished nets them a profit. That isn't even considering the improbable luck of some players, often recently sold characters, and that at any time - night or day - there will be people blinking along with you on anything you care to list. Crazy coincidence and statistical aberrations abound.

But by the same token they are generating GTC sales for CCP, or at the very least have some quantifiable yardstick for number of GTCs purchased through their affiliate scheme. If you don't like what they're offering, don't play. Being enraged that they got given a bunch of stuff is ultimately futile - CCP have always taken the 'its our game we'll do what we want' approach until it starts to threaten revenue streams.

TL;DR - Suck it up. if you all stop blinking then Somer stops making isk, and ultimately cold hard IRL cash.* the scorps pale in comparison the sheer amount of isk extracted from the economy by somer blink, and as collectables they have no inherent value beyond what the "community" applies.

Besides, are you really that outraged? seriously? anybody who honestly, genuinely, gives a **** about t20, vuk lau, monkeysphere, awox, viper shizzle or any of the other prominent rulebreakers through the ages beyond some hazy sense of internet hurf blurf should probably take a long hard look at themselves. Chribba is excluded from this as he lives and breathes eve and as such qualifies for all the perks we (and the the mental health system) can offer.





*via the affiliate scheme.**


** probably.

What is it with you guys CCP?

37 pages and only 2 dev posts? 1 ignorant and the other blatantly ignoring all the post before it.

Who in the office is instructing you to give us all the finger? Who?

I will vote with my debit card as this seems to be how one shows support for their EVE community?

No more Somer blink credit with GTC. Really - If Chribba had GTC purchase scheme attached to his sites I would use it.

No, not really, it would seem

I don't even know where to start!

CCP you dropped the ball ... again!

Giving away special "gifts" to certain player organizations because you think they deserve it reeks of favouritism at best. SOMER Blink does not either deserve or need your "gifts". They take away enough isk from the community to play EVE for generations!

If there are organizations that deserve credit then the "Community Spotlight" is the way to go, if the player base likes them then the extra exposure will bring more players to them. You want to do more, expose them through adds in the silly billboard at each stargate.

Apparently showing up in a community spotlight was not enough for the good ol' folks at SOMER Blink. No, their generous and charitable hearts deserve some special gifts for providing ... what again? A gambling establishment where the house rakes in humongous profits??

How about true "not-for-profit" organizations like EVE-Uni or the Angel Project?

On 30 September, Andrev Nox of SOMERblink responded to a Reddit link I posted. The discussion was regarding CCP's previous form on providing gifts to player organisations and Andrev provided a list as follows:

• CCP sent 4 Ishukone Scorpions to winners in our 1Q event, yep :) To further expand on GhostRider's "Why is everyone complaining this time?" post - just off the top of my head:
• We were also provided a $50 eve store gift card about two years ago for our 50T celebration
• BIG has been provided with Ishukone Scorpions to lotto off and several of the special-edition "christmas" frig hulls that hadn't been released yet at that time. And long before that, with the Impoc.
• Eve Radio has been provided with piles and piles of models and autographed eve swag to auction.
SCL was provided with the tourney software overlay.

• I -believe- SCL was also provided with Ishukone Scorpions, but I admit I'm not sure if that was an official announcement or just a forum rumor.
• FOTR3 was provided with an incursion to make it impossible to hotdrop his event.
• The fiction contest guy was provided with a graphics card to use as a prize.
• An Opus Yacht was given to a couple who got engaged at Fanfest.
And so on.

• CCP has been rewarding community organizations since nearly the beginning of Eve (BIG was given the Impoc for their 1 year anniversary celebration in 2005).

I approached CCP and asked them to corroborate the list and CCP Manifest emailed me the following response:


The communication with CCP was fact-checking as research for my GameSkinny article:

CCP Games Confirms History of Providing Gifts to Player Organisations,

and the follow-up:
[*] The Biblical Irony of EVE Online's SOMERblink Scandal

Although I can't muster the sub cancelling outrage of some of my fellow capsuleers, I would like to officially go on the record saying that this is a pretty lame, anti-sandbox move on CCP's part.

Aside from the blatant and totally inappropriate favoritism, you are forcing a portion of the community to use a third party site (which they may not trust or want to do business with or be banned from) in order to get a chance at these unique prizes. Even worse, you're forcing people to gamble in order to have a chance to win these prizes. Since I don't really feel like being a sucker and further padding the wallet of SOMERblink I guess I too am excluded from this "community event".

Was there not a fiasco just recently involving RP channels being unfairly moderated resulting in portions of the community being excluded? If I am not mistaken, the solution to this was to move the process in house so as to include the entire community. At the heart of it, this is really the same issue and consequently can be resolved by a similar solution. Moving the distribution of these prizes in house would be an easy and efficient way to bring this situation under control. First, the ENTIRE community gets the opportunity to participate without having to trust a questionably operated and moderated third party gambling site. Second, you preserve the sanctity of the sandbox by reversing your very poor decision to give SOMERblink a HUGE ingame advantage (basically feeding them massive quantities of isk from capsuleers seeking to get a piece of EvE memorabilia).

Then, in the future, you can seek out a way to reward the valuable members of our community which doesn't confer any direct in game advantages. Game time or special untradeable NEX items would be appropriate I think.

To arbitrarily choose a group of people and confer great in-game advantages on them is totally against the spirit of this game. We know it, and I would like to believe that CCP knows it too. One of the most endearing qualities of CCP as a company is that you folks are all too human and frequently make these sorts of clumsy mistakes in your efforts to engage your playerbase. Mistakes are okay CCP, and I would much rather have you make the effort than to remain aloof and uncaring like so many other corporate studios. It's important that you recognize these poor choices though and act decisively to correct course.

At a certain point CCP, you just gotta man up, admit to the community that you made a mistake and do the right thing.

Do the right thing CCP. Don't **** in the sandbox.

o/