EVE General Discussion

So then all unique ships in the game, prizes for tournaments and stuff are all wrong too? What's the difference?

X gets a multi billion ISK ship for winning the alliance tournament.

Y gets a multi billion ISK ship for running a popular lottery which requires a LOT of man hours to operate.

Everyone likes to pretend that SOMER is an automated service and the guys behind it are just raking in the cash. In reality there's a whole load of people manually processing the transactions. It's a lot more work than spending a few hours winning an alliance tournament.

So how is that amount of work not equally deserving of a community reward? Because they already make a profit (which is largely spent on Promos, donations, sponsorship)? Would everyone feel better if these ships were not allowed to be sold and thus had no monetary value? Wouldn't that go against your precious sandbox? The same sandbox that determines the value of these ships? Because CCP certainly didn't give them the claimed billions. CCP just gave them ships. Other players are willing to pay billions for those ships. That's not CCP's fault.

Because in the alliance tournament everyone gets to try, everyone gets to compete if they so wish and everybody knows beforehand that there will be rewards.

CCP giving anything to anyone in an unfair manner, giving said people an advantage in-game without giving everyone else a chance to compete for this reward, is wrong.

Should I then get prizes from CCP for ratting, or you for whatever it is you do to earn isk? The people do the work because they are paid to do so. In fact, Somer almost needs to have those people doing it, because when someone isn't around to preauth payments in and out players get upset mighty quickly. I'm not really sure why "doing lots of work" should result in rewards from CCP.

used to have some respect for jester now i just wonder how many of his mates have been given stuff.. total disgrace as a csm member espically as he wanted greater transparency... bloody hypocrit

You'll find I disagree with devtime and handouts pertaining to AT specific ships as well, but that is another thread.

I couldn't let this go....

First of all, winning an alliance tourney isn't "spending a few hours"...first you have to be skilled at PVP, then you have to spend that time paying CCP game time to build up skills. Lets not even go into the finer details of winning a tourney...or just getting to the stage of entering it.

Secondly, I have no doubt the Somer Blink employees put in a lot of work....but you know what? They also get paid handsomely as it is. As far as processing the transactions, I thought they used the API if nobody was online...but, hey I could be wrong.

I wonder how much commission Somer gets for every plex transaction through their site? There are plenty of ways Somer benefit from their business (and good luck to them).

...and I will repeat again, it's not so much the gifts themselves that is the problem, it was the secretive and underhand way in which they were given. That kind of behavior has such a negative impact on things associated with game (in game and out). It almost reminds me of insider trading, which CCP have punished people for before....this time they have initiated it themselves!!

Giving them the ships can't be a PR stunt, poorly thought out or not, because it was done in complete secrecy

If it was to publicly acknowledge and thank someone for doing a good thing, they'd not have had to do it in secret

and they'd also have to explain why somer were picked (again) over a dozen other sites, services and individuals who do a lot for the community - more than a mere fun gambling service.

Attempting to smear people who have a problem with this as being greedy and wanting special unique things themselves, when no one here is doing that is a pisspoor argument mate

just saying

read the thread.

don't worry, you're not the only one ignorant of the issue.

You don't know what their net profit is because a lot of winnings are claimed in blink credit.