Science & Industry

I have recently got bck into Eve after only playing for a month or so. Before that I could not decide on what to do but now have looked into it a bit more and have decided to go with mining. I don't get to play as much as I would like so I'd rather become a solo miner for this reason. I only have the one account for now and was wondering if anyone had some tips for me.
Currently I'm training for a retriever but after that I do not know what to do. Should I train skills to improve mining yield? Should I train in refining in order to refine my ores better?

Also I am a bit confused about how I should sell my ores, I have heared people say I should sell them to buy orders where others have told me to sell them on the market. Should I sell the ore themselves or refine them? Which ores will provide more profits?

Sorry if this post isn't as detailed as it could be, I'm in a bit of a rush and wanted to get this post up before I go out


Thank you & happy flying

I was going to say you really need two accounts to mine but that isn't strictly true now given the size of the ore hold in a Mackinaw now. I'm not sure offhand how much ore a Retriever can hold now. When one of my associates used to fly a Retriever many moons ago he would anchor lines of GSC's along the belts strategically and return in a Mammoth to empty them. But you don't have to do that now since the mining 'rebalancing'.

The Retriever is not bad for mining but if you decide to continue the Mackinaw would be your better choice as it has far better EHP capability.

Skills and standings to get 'perfect refine' should be your first objective. You will need to get 6.67 'effective' ie including social skills standings with the NPC corporation that controls NPC station/s you will want to refine at.
Regarding skills you will want Refining & Refinery Efficiency to lvl 5 if possible. You will want to train the ore processing skills for the ores you intend to mine to lvl 4 if possible. The ore processing skills also allow you to use the T2 Strip Miners in conjunction with T1 or T2 mining crystals . So there you have increased yield as well.

The hardwiring to get an extra 5% mining yield while mining ore is also worth acquiring either from the market or via an LP store at an NPC station that stocks it.

You will have to do missions to get the 6.67 'effective' standings. Security, Distribution, or Mining missions. I don't know which you would choose to do. Probably the Distribution ones?

The best way to sell ore is to refine it into minerals, collect up a decent amount, eg 100 million units of Tritanium/ 50 million units of Pyerite. Look up the prices at Jita and aim to sell at a price higher than the highest buy order but lower than than the lowest sell order. Be prepared to haggle and don't accept silly offers. Play the waiting game. You need 'perfect refine' of course. Access to a freighter can be essential but services such as Red Frog or Push can also be hired to transport your minerals if need be to a trade hub.

Selling minerals on the market can incur high taxes especially if you don't have high standings with the NPC station or have good trade skills trained. Arranging a deal with your buyer via private convo or on trade channels and then settling via private contract is a better option. Only 10,000 ISK to do a private contract.

Joining the 'Bulk Trade' mailing list is another way to sell your minerals or anything else in larger quantities. This can be found/joined via your EVE Mail window. Be prepared to haggle and be offered silly unacceptable prices. Be polite and stand your ground. It's all part of the fun.

I will say there are currently too many people mining and mineral prices are in freefall but if you wish to continue on this path I wish you good luck.

hi everybody like meny others i like mining nice relaxing but the thing is its sad to see there havent been eny major uppdate to the mining side of the game and wondering when will ccp add more content to the industry and mining considring we have been sitting on the same mining barges in like what almost 9 10 years i dont know ... i do know pvp is the bggiest thing that is now moslty the focus is put on but you do Think 10 years wud be enough to add content on the game to keep everybody happy so far as i know i might get hated for this but the only real update for the mining side ive seen is the rorqal ship its like a next step after an orca but so far thats the only thing ive seen .so i wonder when will new content come out that is spesific for miners maybe i am wrong about this and some new stuff has come out but so far as ive seen nothing rly major compared to the other proffesions of the game :))

Venture was a recent addition.

Also @ the OP: You will know when you get there.
Get a corporation that does mining and see what options open up.
It will determine what ships you use more than anything else.

If you go pure solo just aim for the Mackinaw and keep a decent tank to keep gankers off you.

Another possibility is to find a 0.5 system that already has Ore Buy orders in place, for several or all of the occuring ore types, and with decent prices. Then it's trivial to sell to those.

Or if the OP insists on refining himself, then he'd do well to train the Connections skill to 4, or at least 3, as that improves effective standing, for the purpose of refining tax (and several other purpose) but only for positive standings, i.e. 0.01 or higher.

Indeed, taking the Gallente Industrial skill is a given now for miners, it allows you to pilote a specialized ore hauler and a specialized mineral hauler.
They are both very useful, the ore hauler has an even bigger ore bay than a mackinaw.
And the Iteron V is still one of the biggest generic haulers out there, so no loss in taking Gallente compared to other empires industrial skills even if you can easily have all, but they are better when maxed out so it will be difficult and a little pointless.