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Loot Spew: Because We Can't Have Nice Things

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A Research Alt
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-10-04 00:30:18 UTC
I just tried doing a relic site for the first time. I found the system core, cracked it open, and...wait why is all of my loot flying away and disappearing? What? What is this crap? How am I supposed to open these little cans while they fly away from me? Why aren't they appearing on my overview? Why are they flying away from me in the first place?

Seriously, CCP, loot spew is an unfun and stupid mechanic. What does it add? An irritating and difficult grab for all of the already-earned loot before it disappears in a few short seconds. That's it.

Hacking minigame: fun. Loot spew bullshit: not fun.

Get rid of loot spew. It's an unfun pain in the ass for no gain. The best you can do is not lose. The worst is lose everything. Hooray unnecessary penalty mechanics.
Rengerel en Distel
#2 - 2013-10-04 00:36:54 UTC
Nod, pretty much the feeling of most players. CCP disagrees. Guess who wins?

With the increase in shiptoasting, the Report timer needs to be shortened.
A Research Alt
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-10-04 00:39:23 UTC
"Hey let's play a game at the end of this fun minigame where we take away some of what you just got depending on how well you do. Oh, and it's deliberately obtuse and annoying."

Gee thanks CCP.
bloodknight2
Revenu.Quebec
#4 - 2013-10-04 00:39:44 UTC
Rengerel en Distel wrote:
Nod, pretty much the feeling of most players. CCP disagrees. Guess who wins?


The players can simply unsubs. If you continue sending money to CCP, they will continue doing this kind of...things.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#5 - 2013-10-04 00:42:21 UTC
A Research Alt wrote:
Seriously, CCP, loot spew is an unfun and stupid mechanic. What does it add?
A second tier of competition for the best cans, even if that competition is simply against your own knowledge about what is good and what isn't. Alternatively, a reason to do sites in teams of more than one.
A Research Alt
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-10-04 00:47:50 UTC
About the only thing I'm being penalized on is my inability to read all of the can names before they disappear because the mouseover is slow for the names to appear and the can names won't show up on my overview.

Loot spew is terrible and should be taken out. And don't give me the "run it in teams" crap. You know what nobody wants to do in this game? Sit there and watch somebody else hack something for a couple minutes so they can grab a can or two for half its value.

I made a mistake thinking CCP had done a good job changing hacking and relic sites. They suck so bad I'm not bothering with them anymore.
Azami Nevinyrall
172.0.0.1
#7 - 2013-10-04 01:06:44 UTC
Loot spew...

EVE Online is the ONLY...anything anywhere that does that?

I don't understand what in hell CCP was thinking to be honest...

Name one sci-fi anything that after anyone hacks a database everything goes flying into space randomly...

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Nevyn Auscent
Broke Sauce
#8 - 2013-10-04 01:08:59 UTC
Your mistake was not researching first really. Once you know the system you can get 90% of the value from a site solo quite easily. And the mouse over certainly isn't that slow, it isn't FPS twitch response needed.
Grath Telkin
Amok.
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2013-10-04 01:14:10 UTC
Maybe if you had read and found that you weren't supposed to try and do them alone and taken a friend like was intended then you wouldn't be making whine threads on the forums.

The mechanic allows you to play solo if you choose, but it rewards you if you play in a group like intended.


Deal with your choices and move on whiner.

Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
A Research Alt
Perkone
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-10-04 01:24:18 UTC
Grath Telkin wrote:
Maybe if you had read and found that you weren't supposed to try and do them alone and taken a friend like was intended then you wouldn't be making whine threads on the forums.

The mechanic allows you to play solo if you choose, but it rewards you if you play in a group like intended.


Deal with your choices and move on whiner.


Grath lecturing people about having friends, heh
Lipbite
Express Hauler
#11 - 2013-10-04 01:34:49 UTC
You forgot to mention whole activity is barred behind scanning mini-game which alone can repel most humans.
Sharanelle
KarmaFleet
Goonswarm Federation
#12 - 2013-10-04 02:01:03 UTC
Also, will the new loot grabber thingy and diddlyhopper help in this situation?

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Katrina Oniseki
Oniseki-Raata Internal Watch
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#13 - 2013-10-04 02:09:05 UTC  |  Edited by: Katrina Oniseki
If you cargo scan the hacking object before hacking it, you can see what's inside it and figure out which types of minicans to tractor in. That way, you can ignore the useless ones and only get what you need. Loot spew is perfectly fine.

EDIT: Use this website to determine which minicans to tractor. :)

http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/1309/Neural-Boost_minicontainer-loot-distribution.pdf

Katrina Oniseki
Elliavir
Miskatonic Mercantile
#14 - 2013-10-04 02:10:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Elliavir
Yeah, I intensely dislike the Super Mario Galaxy loot spew mechanic. And I've been saying that, along with quite a few other folks, since it was launched. Apparently someone at CCP uses an alternate definition of "fun" that I am unaware of.

I still do sites... usually when someone else really wants to. I don't mind the scanning and the hacking, but the loot spew just irritates me. Enough that I do sites far, far less than I would otherwise. And that is despite being apparently rather good at it... it's like being really great at bleaching grout. It's still not fun.

Edit - Yes, I use the cargo scanner. That in no way improves the fun. At. All.
Hammer Crendraven
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-10-04 02:18:32 UTC
Yea about as much fun as fixing a broken septic tank. No fixing a broken septic tank is more fun than grabing the spewing loot cans.
Tauranon
Weeesearch
CAStabouts
#16 - 2013-10-04 02:26:23 UTC
The loot spew doesn't bug me. On average I pull 20m per site in null - and I lose more value to having T1 hacking tools than I do to spew.
Garandras
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-10-04 02:27:25 UTC
You know if you don't like the mechanic there are alot of other options out there for you to do
Ryhss
#18 - 2013-10-04 02:30:07 UTC  |  Edited by: Ryhss
I quit hacking when they introduced this crap. Sold most of my hacking mods.

Grath Telkin wrote:
Maybe if you had read and found that you weren't supposed to try and do them alone and taken a friend like was intended then you wouldn't be making whine threads on the forums.

The mechanic allows you to play solo if you choose, but it rewards you if you play in a group like intended.


Deal with your choices and move on whiner.


You sir, are an idiot. Not everyone has in game friends, and prefer doing things solo.

I just turned into an egg, did I level up? I spent an hour trying to salvage a wreck, when in local a guy said "Stop it, this is my Tempest, I was AFK"
Seraph Essael
Air
The Initiative.
#19 - 2013-10-04 02:30:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Seraph Essael
Katrina Oniseki wrote:
If you cargo scan the hacking object before hacking it, you can see what's inside it and figure out which types of minicans to tractor in. That way, you can ignore the useless ones and only get what you need. Loot spew is perfectly fine.

EDIT: Use this website to determine which minicans to tractor. :)

http://go-dl.eve-files.com/media/1309/Neural-Boost_minicontainer-loot-distribution.pdf


Beat me to it. Quoted because, exactly this ^

Edit: To be fair, I can understand why they have done it. They didnt want players going into sites and just hacking and getting the modules automatically as before.

Not to mention, its sort of more realistic (I dunno if they were aiming for that), but if you have an airtight container and crack it open in a vacuum, the change in pressure would spew the loot everywhere, and at an alarmingly fast rate too.

I have done some data and relic sites and I have no problems with getting the majority (if not all) of containers of worth nearly every time.

Quoted from Doc Fury: "Concerned citizens: Doc seldom plays EVE on the weekends during spring and summer, so you will always be on your own for a couple days a week. Doc spends that time collecting kittens for the on-going sacrifices, engaging in reckless outdoor activities, and speaking in the 3rd person."
A Research Alt
Perkone
Caldari State
#20 - 2013-10-04 02:33:05 UTC
Garandras wrote:
You know if you don't like the mechanic there are alot of other options out there for you to do


And I'm doing them.
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