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Cheng Musana
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#21 - 2013-10-02 12:16:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Cheng Musana
mineral prices would explode and with that everything that gets produced aswell. Like others mentioned powerblocks would be formed. 100 man mining fleets where 60 ships will just be for the sole reason of protection. And the minerals mined aint going on the market. Those will be used to produce more ships in the powerblock. And ISK would become absolute as currency. You dont pay with liquid cash, you pay with ships, modules etc. cause you wont be aible to buy anything with ISK cause everything remains in the powerblocks. Highsec is just as usefull as nullsec simply cause in nullsec you make ISK quite fast and where you usually spend it? In the trade hubs buying cheap fuel, ships or whatever you currently need.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#22 - 2013-10-02 12:17:35 UTC
Edwin McAlister wrote:
What would happen to the game, and what would happen to the player base if ALL types of pvp restrictions and penalties were removed from the game.

im hopeing, but not expecting, logical rational player view point on this, im curious what other player think.


CCP Seagull, is that you?
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#23 - 2013-10-02 12:26:55 UTC
Edwin McAlister wrote:
What would happen to the game, and what would happen to the player base if ALL types of pvp restrictions and penalties were removed from the game.

im hopeing, but not expecting, logical rational player view point on this, im curious what other player think.


The logical, rational answer is that the weak-willed and squishy players of EVE would quit, and the rest would find a work around and keep on going.
Aurilen Baxtab
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-10-02 12:42:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Aurilen Baxtab
derp. misunderstood the question.
wowyouareacow
NANA221 Corporation
#25 - 2013-10-02 12:53:50 UTC
It might become like nullsec, just with way more people.
It might actually make EVE a better game.
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#26 - 2013-10-02 13:27:09 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
remove invunerable stations instead... its even worse than concored

pure puppy mechanics for puppy gamers...

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Randey Miromme
My Wormhole Hurts
#27 - 2013-10-02 13:38:09 UTC
I guess I'm thinking of 2007 but I thought for sure that CCP did "allow" it to happen for a day. I didn't think it was an "accident".

This thread is going places. Wait for it....
Maggie Evenstar
Unoriginal Corporation
#28 - 2013-10-02 13:57:15 UTC
I think pre-announced Concord strikes that would last for an hour or so would be very interesting. However, leave concord active in all trade hubs and connected systems to avoid horrid lag issues.

Have warnings pop-up in game ahead of time like what happens before downtime. Have the security penalty be double what it is in lowsec.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#29 - 2013-10-02 14:27:16 UTC
Edwin McAlister wrote:
What would happen to the game, and what would happen to the player base if ALL types of pvp restrictions and penalties were removed from the game.

im hopeing, but not expecting, logical rational player view point on this, im curious what other player think.



You'd basically be in the same state as America is at the moment.

It's honestly not really that fun.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882
Murk Paradox
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#30 - 2013-10-02 14:35:04 UTC
Kalishka Askulf wrote:
I would love this to happen. Let's have a 24 hour lack of concord Twisted



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Velicitia
XS Tech
#31 - 2013-10-02 14:38:15 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Edwin McAlister wrote:
What would happen to the game, and what would happen to the player base if ALL types of pvp restrictions and penalties were removed from the game.

im hopeing, but not expecting, logical rational player view point on this, im curious what other player think.


CCP Seagull, is that you?


Hope so Cool

One of the bitter points of a good bittervet is the realisation that all those SP don't really do much, and that the newbie is having much more fun with what little he has. - Tippia
Elliavir
Miskatonic Mercantile
#32 - 2013-10-02 14:49:27 UTC
Kalishka Askulf wrote:
I would love this to happen. Let's have a 24 hour lack of concord Twisted


Only if there's a 24-hour "bonus CONCORD in low-sec and null" day, too.

Although, in both cases, all that would really happen is a lot of sitting around stations drinking virtual lattes and/or hiding out in random spots in space cloaked.
Elliavir
Miskatonic Mercantile
#33 - 2013-10-02 15:20:15 UTC
Edwin McAlister wrote:
What would happen to the game, and what would happen to the player base if ALL types of pvp restrictions and penalties were removed from the game.

im hopeing, but not expecting, logical rational player view point on this, im curious what other player think.


If there was no other mechanic change, I think it would be detrimental to the game - it would at least make the current definitions of hi-sec, low-sec, and null completely meaningless if the gameplay is the same everywhere. The wardec system would be pointless if there was no difference between "authorized war" and "just shooting people". Actually, quite a few EVE features would become obsolete (crimewatch, sec status, resource distribution) - so that's either a loss of content and a waste of code -or- freeing up developer time, depending on how you view it.

The game would become even more niche, as anyone who wasn't a full-time PvP enthusiast would probably look elsewhere.

Now, if there were some other mechanic changes (such as Julius Priscus' suggestions to make player enforcement easier), it might work. Making faction law enforcement respond to illegal acts, possibly based on the standings of the involved parties, might also provide a way to differentiate different sec status areas.

I've played Free-For-All PvP games before where there was no NPC intervention in anything - and the giant alliance thing is pretty much how it goes. As a side effect of that, the actual areas of the game experienced by any given player are usually very limited - newbie zone(s) and then whatever territory their chosen group controls. Which has, in my experience, led to folks getting bored and burnt out sooner, since they've got a smaller sandbox. EVE might not see that effect as much since the various areas in the game have similar coded content, and so much more of what goes on is player-generated stuff.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#34 - 2013-10-02 15:36:43 UTC
Go to lowsec. Thats what it would look like.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Commander Spurty
#35 - 2013-10-02 15:43:22 UTC
I'm curious also as to what would happen.

I fear that a '24 hour period' of no CONCORD would be artificial and only be a 'day of rest' for mission runners.

I know that making it permanent would just drive the casuals away. Look at the Singularity stats for a general idea of how many 'serious business' players exist in this game. TQ would just have that many people logging in with the weaponry we have today and no CONCORD to keep it in check.

http://games.chruker.dk/eve_online/server_status.php

Wow, that looks so fantastic .. [cue golf clap]

There are good ships,

And wood ships,

And ships that sail the sea

But the best ships are Spaceships

Built by CCP
Othran
Route One
#36 - 2013-10-02 16:01:54 UTC
Edwin McAlister wrote:
What would happen to the game, and what would happen to the player base if ALL types of pvp restrictions and penalties were removed from the game.

im hopeing, but not expecting, logical rational player view point on this, im curious what other player think.


The same thing that happened when players could tank concorde & gateguns - jump-in gatecamps on the pipe systems which AP picks as "safest route".

That would be followed up by epic wailing (again), followed by CCP realising (again) that unrestricted PvP doesn't work, much as we'd like it to. There has to be somewhere reasonably safe for new players and people who haul all the crap which drives the markets. That in turn adds complexity to the game - more complexity than ganking indies anyway.

In short, it'd be groundhog day (again)...
Othran
Route One
#37 - 2013-10-02 16:04:58 UTC
Randey Miromme wrote:
I guess I'm thinking of 2007 but I thought for sure that CCP did "allow" it to happen for a day. I didn't think it was an "accident".


They did an "Armageddon Day" at the end of beta which I think is what people are referring to. Everyone got max skills and could fly anything they liked (prices were same as sisi now).
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#38 - 2013-10-02 16:10:54 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Edwin McAlister wrote:
What would happen to the game, and what would happen to the player base if ALL types of pvp restrictions and penalties were removed from the game.

im hopeing, but not expecting, logical rational player view point on this, im curious what other player think.


The logical, rational answer is that the weak-willed and squishy players of EVE would quit, and the rest would find a work around and keep on going.


And CCP loses over half of their customer base...no biggie.
Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#39 - 2013-10-02 16:16:17 UTC
Krixtal Icefluxor wrote:
Edwin McAlister wrote:
What would happen to the game, and what would happen to the player base if ALL types of pvp restrictions and penalties were removed from the game.

im hopeing, but not expecting, logical rational player view point on this, im curious what other player think.



You'd basically be in the same state as America is at the moment.

It's honestly not really that fun.


More like Somalia, where the area (it is no longer a country) is run by warlords.
Like null sec today.
Krixtal Icefluxor
INLAND EMPIRE Galactic
#40 - 2013-10-02 16:31:14 UTC
95 % of the subscriber base still would not have a clue of such an event even if announced 100 times a day in advance for a month because of "too much to reads...herp derp"

The hilarity would be enormous.

"He has mounted his hind-legs, and blown crass vapidities through the bowel of his neck."  - Ambrose Bierce on Oscar Wilde's Lecture in San Francisco 1882