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Purpose/Benefit of being a miner in a Corp
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Chandra Visteen
Mineral Extractor Inc
#1 - 2013-10-02 09:55:39 UTC
Can someone please help me understand something?

I'm looking to join a corp as I'm flying about solo and it's getting a bit boring and lonesome. I'm looking through the recruitment posts and have contacted a few how have said they're in need of miners.

I've asked a few times - what exactly is the purpose of the miner? I mean, am I to mine for the Corp and hand over the goods? Do I give a percentage of my mining to the Corp? What are the benefits for me in doing that?
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#2 - 2013-10-02 10:05:12 UTC
Most likely they will provide fleet boosts that will dramatically increase your mining yield, advice on gameplay/mechanics , reprocessing, hauling and a market for your ore.
That is if they are a well organised and social high sec corp (an almost mythical beast).
The result is they probably end up with all the mineral you produce at a slightly lower cost than they can buy on the market and your isk/hour shoots up (because of the mining boosts and the better reprocessing) and you stop playing a MMO as a single player game.
The big disadvantage is you might get war dec'd and mining corps are usually pathetic at dealing with those.
The other big disadvantage is that you will be mining which is the dullest eve career path as well as providing one of the lower eve incomes. I strongly advise researching some alternate career paths.
convo me in game or mail me if u want to chat about various careers in eve and what groupings might aid you in those paths. Unless u want to talk about high sec mining corps. i don't know any good ones of those.

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Prince Kobol
#3 - 2013-10-02 10:05:49 UTC
Chandra Visteen wrote:
Can someone please help me understand something?

I'm looking to join a corp as I'm flying about solo and it's getting a bit boring and lonesome. I'm looking through the recruitment posts and have contacted a few how have said they're in need of miners.

I've asked a few times - what exactly is the purpose of the miner? I mean, am I to mine for the Corp and hand over the goods? Do I give a percentage of my mining to the Corp? What are the benefits for me in doing that?


Some corps will have building programs.

For example a Corp will own a number of BPO's, depending on the amount and type of minerals you contribute you will get paid a percentage of what ever is being built and sold.

So the corp will take a small cut and you will get paid more then what you would of gotten if you sold the minerals yourself on the market.

The more miners a corp has, the more it is able to build, the more isk everybody gets.

Pretty simple really
J3ssica Alba
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-10-02 10:06:15 UTC
Chandra Visteen wrote:
Can someone please help me understand something?

I'm looking to join a corp as I'm flying about solo and it's getting a bit boring and lonesome. I'm looking through the recruitment posts and have contacted a few how have said they're in need of miners.

I've asked a few times - what exactly is the purpose of the miner? I mean, am I to mine for the Corp and hand over the goods? Do I give a percentage of my mining to the Corp? What are the benefits for me in doing that?


Some corps buy the minerals directly from their miners to build whatever they build with them
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Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-10-02 10:15:04 UTC
You didn't specify what you like to do in EVE - just mentioned mining/miners.

there are a variety of corporations in EVE that offer a lot of different options on how you play.

Others have outlined a bit about what miners do but I'll expand a bit. In a good mining corporation, you'll end up mining in a group with others vs soloing. Generally this includes being on a com server chatting with others vs just soloing around. Not quite as boring - much more social this way.

If mining isn't your thing then you can think about or look into doing what you do like or (more likely) sampling a bit and deciding what you like to do in the game.

You have activities across the game to choose from and get into - the least social of them is market trading. The most social tends to be PvP but PvP is also usually a healthy cost-sink vs income source.
Chandra Visteen
Mineral Extractor Inc
#6 - 2013-10-02 11:16:10 UTC
Thanks all for your replies. To broadly answer your questions and points made...

At the moment I'm heading down the mining route as at the moment, I'm incredibly busy at home (I'm a tax consultant) so the mining is mostly background mining so that I can A) build a stash and B) move some of it on for ISK. Things will settle down after January (when the tax deadline passes) and I should also have a pile of skills learnt to set me off on other career paths.

At the moment I'm conscious of just two career paths...mining or going about shooting people.

I wasn't aware about the boosts I could potentially receive from working with a corp nor the BPO's situation. I actually have a few BPO's in my stash so perhaps that could help my application forms? :P

I'm conscious that this won't be the dead cert career path for me as I do want to find myself earning a bit more ISK than what I'm getting at the moment - in terms of hours spend over return. I'll need to learn the market more and find out what it is that I can provide for a good price and still turn a profit.

Thanks again everyone.
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#7 - 2013-10-02 11:37:34 UTC
The answer to your question will change from corp to corp.

In some cases, as others have mentioned, the corp might get a cut of what you mine.
In other cases the corp may buy the minerals from you (either at market cost or a few % below).
Some might need miners to help restock ships and modules for the PVP'ers.
And some might want miners just because they want people who enjoy the activity as a group.
Others may just want you because they want more people in the corp and dont really care what you do.

The best thing you can do is ask the recruiter(s) why they are looking for miners, and how they benefit from it. Talk to the other members as well if you can and try to get their perspective of things.
If you are unsure what to look for and what to ask you may want to check this link that can give you some pointers to help you avoid joining a corp that is not really what they made them selfes out to be.

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Prince Kobol
#8 - 2013-10-02 11:43:11 UTC
Chandra Visteen wrote:
Thanks all for your replies. To broadly answer your questions and points made...

At the moment I'm heading down the mining route as at the moment, I'm incredibly busy at home (I'm a tax consultant) so the mining is mostly background mining so that I can A) build a stash and B) move some of it on for ISK. Things will settle down after January (when the tax deadline passes) and I should also have a pile of skills learnt to set me off on other career paths.

At the moment I'm conscious of just two career paths...mining or going about shooting people.

I wasn't aware about the boosts I could potentially receive from working with a corp nor the BPO's situation. I actually have a few BPO's in my stash so perhaps that could help my application forms? :P

I'm conscious that this won't be the dead cert career path for me as I do want to find myself earning a bit more ISK than what I'm getting at the moment - in terms of hours spend over return. I'll need to learn the market more and find out what it is that I can provide for a good price and still turn a profit.

Thanks again everyone.


In regards to your BPO's, do not under any circumstances hand them over to the corp... ever
Angel Korstar
Blue Sun Mining and Exploration
#9 - 2013-10-02 12:15:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Angel Korstar
"l In regards to your BPO's, do not under any circumstances hand them over to the corp... ever"

^^ This
Cheng Musana
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#10 - 2013-10-02 12:21:30 UTC
if you look at ISK per hour i would advise you just go and do exploration. Pays you much more then mining and lvl4's combined.
Chandra Visteen
Mineral Extractor Inc
#11 - 2013-10-02 12:29:52 UTC
I do enjoy the exploration and especially the salvaging aspect of the game but I'd really like to do that as part of a team.
My brother and I used to team up for security missions - he'd go in and obliterate all whilst I nipped around in a fast ship using tractor beams, salvagers and salvaging drones. He quit the game though.

I didn't realise that corporations had that aspect on the go as well so that could be the next step in my career path once I finish off the next set of mining skills I'm working on.
Aurilen Baxtab
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-10-02 12:39:25 UTC
Chandra Visteen wrote:
Can someone please help me understand something?

I'm looking to join a corp as I'm flying about solo and it's getting a bit boring and lonesome. I'm looking through the recruitment posts and have contacted a few how have said they're in need of miners.

I've asked a few times - what exactly is the purpose of the miner? I mean, am I to mine for the Corp and hand over the goods? Do I give a percentage of my mining to the Corp? What are the benefits for me in doing that?



a word of advice, (and advice is always optional) You can not trust anyone in EvE. It's better to get your real world friends, co workers, people you interact with everyday and trust, to play EvE and form your own corporation. And remember, EvE is always a PvP game. High Sec may be "safer" than low sec but it's never safe.


Usually (but not always) corps looking for miners means they can make more ISK off of you. basically they take your ore, or buy your ore at low prices, and in return you get the security of a fleet (see advice above). There's no set rules, though. If you form your own corp and have your real world friends join then you can make the rules.

Peace, and good luck in your search. \\//,
Karak Bol
Low-Sec Survival Ltd.
#13 - 2013-10-02 12:47:05 UTC
From a purely economic point of view: There is no reason to join a corp, unless:

- You do not have your own Orca alt
- You lack the ability to refine optimally
- You do not have means to haul your ores/minerals to a trade hub

1. can be solved by skilling up an appropiate pilot on another account
2. can be solved by your miner, as he will skill for mining crystals anyway and some mining missions will solve the standing problem
3. Use courier contracts or skill up a Hauler alt on either you first or second account (Or both), so you can haul while not mining.

Corps in highsec are only useful for: POS (and soon POCO) and social contacts. Anything else you can do either by creating alts and multiboxing, out of a one-man-corp or NPC corp. Again, from a purely economical point of view. Its not fun for me to it that way, nor do I recommend it.
Johnny Marzetti
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#14 - 2013-10-02 12:55:54 UTC
OP, just join their corps and kill all of them.