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THANKS CCP! Got rid of like 9 more cry baby bitches that will never be happy with this game! BUYING CRUISER IF YOU WON ONE!

Been playing since 2006 but apparently only read the news when the goons told you to.

This has happened dozens and dozens of times, even just in the time you've been playing.

Anyone that knows me in game can tell you I haven't been a fan of the Goons but I am completely in agreement with them on this issue, to my surprise.


The forums are obviously not where I spend much time and was brought here by other collectors in discussion who are angry but just not expressing it in this thread.

CCP has made a mistake in this matter and the consequences are not fully realized and this offered solution was not acceptable.

Somer Blink has now become a 3rd party sub contractor of CCP and as such their employees, corporation, membership and alliance will need to abide by the same rules as any other CCP employee when it comes to using the Eve client and server.
If their membership continues to play the game as if they were any other player they are in conflict of interest.

I don't think ethics play into it at all for them. Why would you let such a silly little thing get in the way of the massive profits generated by player interest in these items?

The most important thing is still not answered, how in the world is this not "favoritism".

I think there a very big gap of logic here that CCP navigator is still not addressing. Somer is not a totally independent third party, what they do outside of EVE, affects the game directly.

I don't see the problem in encouraging third party applications that don't directly give their creators in game advantages such as EFT, EVE board, Pyfa, EVEMON etc... But clearly that is not the case here.

Just answer this question, didn't SOMER directly or indirectly gain a lot of in game isk, was it through more traffic or direct profits, from the interference of CCP?

The clear answer here is yes and shouldn't be allowed for any reason or justification whatsoever. I still don't understand how this is still not addressed.

On another note, a quote from your "policies", "We will not authorize or otherwise sanction the use of any third party software. The End User License Agreement and Terms of Service are clear on this subject:"

taken from http://community.eveonline.com/support/policies/third-party-policies/

What are you doing here is not only sactioning but encouraging the use of 3rd party software hereby breaking your own rules. Not very clear is it?

This is really a big clusterfuck.

Can we have CCP Sreegs back now?

Partnerships with Sony and ex-EA suits. It's not exactly surprising.

I do find it repulsive that they allowed the event to go ahead despite these huge outstanding issues - the main ones being the fact that somer exclude players at their discretion, and that it provides them a direct benefit in-game against competitors.

As was stated, it was a calculated move so they could allow it to go ahead, then after the fact say "oh its done now, but we'll discuss what happens in the future"

Well I won't be discussing anything since I'm unsubscribing :)

To echo what other players are saying in this thread... w-t-f.
CCP, I love you as a company, but why are you giving SOMER Blink so much ISK when THEY ALREADY MAKE A TON?

Why not just do your own lottery that everyone has a chance of winning?

http://paizo.com/paizo/messageboards/paizoPublishing/licensees/pathfinderOnline

Try this one, will be out next year.

Wow, so this actually came to pass? Been playing eve since 04- took a few breathers now and again but always knew I'd be back. Not this time though. I stuck it out through t20 as CCP formally apologized and reached out to the players, promising non-interference in the future.

All of my accounts have been unsubbed as of this moment. I will not be returning to this game as the reason for playing has been undermined despite the legitimate outcry of the players.


All the fanfests and promised 'visions' for the future mean nothing when you take away the base that they are built upon. Damage done. I'd rather pay for a sandbox than what this has become.
Gg ccp- once anyway.

Regarding: The damage to your reputation CCP done by yourself. Again.


Dear CCP.

Making business decisions beat equity in treatment of any player base service is a thing to omit in the future.

Some managers in your house obviously have started to think about the CSM as something forced on them not something that helps them understand the player base and prevent them from loosing your reputation. Again.

Please have these entities of yours removed from any decision making until they have studied the events that formed the CSM very thoroughly. This is in your best interests in the long run.

Even though it might be all a misunderstanding and someone thought this would be a totally unimportant thing - the stench of someone who took a bribe is already in the house. It's like the referee might have taken money.

CCP you are the ones to keep the equity inside of the sandbox from being tampered with. Why is this important? Anything that only feels like parameters are harshly changed from the outside in favour of a small group is a game breaker for everybody else. A game breaker is something that is like in a kids game when they change rules to succeed in the game - at will. Noone wants to play with such a kid in the long run.

To keep the game system itself equally fair to everyone is something only you can do technically - but you are not alone:

Anyone doing great services? Ask the best instance you have which action INGAME would be appropriate to reward it. Always. Not when you feel like it. -> CSM. See paragraph two once more.

I heard rumours of ex EA managers being around. EA is the most hated failboat in the gaming world regarding customer service and relations. Dev studios vanished inside of it and came back as abominations. Be careful where you're lead to.

Best regards.