Player Features and Ideas Discussion

Greetings people! Im sure many of you, like me, tried to get friends into this game and often failed miserably. I made the experience that it is neither the steep learning curve nor the harsh survivalist-style gameplay this game is known for. No, usually it comes down to two questions, and then its over for most potential newcomers:

1) Can I walk in stations and interact with other players?
2) Can I pilot my ship directly?

After people discover that the answer to those is "no", its over, they either quit or dont try it in the first place, which brings a tear to my eye every time. Even I only tried it because a friend practically threatened me to try this game. Now we all know that piloting the ship directly is simply not technically possible if you want a single-shard universe with massive battles. On the contrary, after getting used to Eve I even complain about other twitch-based space game, because Eve lets me position my ship exactly where I want it. Different method, same or better result.

Which leaves Walk in Stations. Yeah, there will probably be a lot "Posting in another WiS thread" and thats fine. But thats also how it should be! Work on WiS exist, as far as we know, for a better five years, yet has never been implemented. The games growth would rise significantly, and, not to forget, this is the key feature to finally improve on that dreadful female-player rating, which would open Eve up to a whole new crowd of players.

In the end that is no real news, but all people in favor have to stay vocal about this and keep getting heard on a regular basis, otherwise we end up with even more rebalancing or rather underwhelming content. I love this game and want to get people into it, but Eve is just making this task damn hard for all the wrong reasons.

I'm still here tho. Then again I am a fool for believing in an open sandbox of freedom allowing me to ruin or be ruined by a fellow eve player. WIS is cool idea but it should be its own game when I think of it. Like sims in space with body parts in low gravity.

1) No


2) No

Any questions?

Dust is that way >

I"m going to start kneecapping people who say direct piloting isn't possible because of the servers.

You can manually pilot your ship and you can walk in stations. You're wrong on both points.

Eve already uses mid-tick caching. If there is a reason direct piloting would be hard to code, it's probably client side.

Underlined the main motivation of this post. In short, it's the same ole "appeal to CCPs wallet" thing again.


The existing fanbase has spoken and wants CCP to conentrate on the SPACE part of this spaceship game. Doing other wise would do 2 things:

1. Alienate the existing fanbase

2. Attract people to a SPACEship game who aren't into SPACE.

The 2nd one is the reason CCP is doing the right thing right now. The people who play EVE right now love space ships, mostly don't give a flip about piloting spaceships (I for one play this game because I like being the CAPTAIN of my ship, not it's pilot) and could care less about walking around. Who the hell needs feet when you have Warp Capability? Changing that means EVe would be flooded by these happy-go-lucky themeparkers who wouldn't stay very long no matter what you do.

The OP might think it's a good thing to trade dedicated players (many of whom buy multiple accounts to do even more things in space) for people who aren't interested in the main theme of EVE online (SPACEships), but I think the idea is dumb.

I remember when SOE tried to trade the existing players of Star Wars Galaxies for new players...it didn't work out so great for them. Same thing would happen to Eve.

What do you mean by trade? Would you really leave the game if they added some more to WiS? I wouldn't, although I wouldn't really use it either. It would be like current WiS, take it or leave it. I highly doubt CCP would make it a requirement to WALK too your agents.