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Ratting Titans still work?
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Face of TheOp
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-10-01 16:42:09 UTC
Got into a discussion with a friend over ratting titans. He insists that they'd still work, although it still be silly to use one because of the price tag.

My question is this: is a Rag fully loaded with officer tracking computers/tracking enhancers, all the implants and boosters the best ratting machine? Especially with the changes in turrets, and the rag being able to use Titanium Sabot with its 20% tracking boost.

Stats from eft:

Tracking: 0.02784
Range: 51+60
Scan res: 125.2
DPS: 6188

concept: warp at 100 and blap

Disclaimer:

Yes I know ratting titans/supers is stupid. Yes I know there are cheaper ships that do almost just as well. Please discuss the concept, not the price.
Jelani Akinyemi Affonso
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-10-01 17:20:44 UTC
you should , uh, do some trial runs first..

Then come back here n post an update.. I will be greatly waiting for those results...
Face of TheOp
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-10-01 18:20:20 UTC
neither of us have or want a titan so I dont see any trials happening by us
Mohadib Flagrante
Doomheim
#4 - 2013-10-01 23:26:08 UTC
The problem is that the penalty from shooting subcaps applies directly as a damage modifier. Not tracking or anything like that.

I think it would just be bad. A regular carrier, or blingy faction BS probably does just as well, for 1% of the cost.

Supercarriers are probably still king though.
Face of TheOp
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-10-02 00:35:40 UTC
Mohadib Flagrante wrote:
The problem is that the penalty from shooting subcaps applies directly as a damage modifier. Not tracking or anything like that.


what penalty? I dont see it anywhere in the rag description nor the turret's
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#6 - 2013-10-02 02:33:51 UTC
Aside from the cost, it would be totally viable to drive a Lamborghini to ones minimum wage job.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Andrew Indy
Cleaning Crew
#7 - 2013-10-02 03:26:39 UTC
Face of TheOp wrote:
Mohadib Flagrante wrote:
The problem is that the penalty from shooting subcaps applies directly as a damage modifier. Not tracking or anything like that.


what penalty? I dont see it anywhere in the rag description nor the turret's


Guns have a Signature Radius, if they are shooting things that are much smaller than the Guns Radius they get a penalty , that and crappy Tracking makes them ineffective against Sub Caps.

Also a scan res of 5 makes them lock super super slow.
Face of TheOp
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-10-02 04:44:02 UTC
Andrew Indy wrote:
Face of TheOp wrote:
Mohadib Flagrante wrote:
The problem is that the penalty from shooting subcaps applies directly as a damage modifier. Not tracking or anything like that.


what penalty? I dont see it anywhere in the rag description nor the turret's


Guns have a Signature Radius, if they are shooting things that are much smaller than the Guns Radius they get a penalty , that and crappy Tracking makes them ineffective against Sub Caps.

Also a scan res of 5 makes them lock super super slow.



ahh must have missed the scan res of the guns. Thanks.

also with the sensor boosters it had scan res of 125 (with a concord cloak on) so actually the lock time wasn't too bad. About the same that a super has
Tesoni Daven
Collapsed Out
Pandemic Legion
#9 - 2013-10-02 19:31:24 UTC  |  Edited by: Tesoni Daven
Look at the description of the titan again also. All titans now have a damage penalty when shooting sub-capitals. They added it because they were stupidly effective at insta-popping sub-caps when tracking fit.




Quote:
Minmatar Titan Skill Bonuses:
125% bonus to Capital Projectile Turret damage per level
7.5% reduction in fleet members' signature radius per level
Can fit Gjallarhorn Super Weapon
Can fit Jump Portal Generator
Can fit Clone Vat Bay
Can fit 1 additional Warfare Link module per level
Immune to all forms of Electronic Warfare
Turrets fitted to this ship will do reduced damage to small targets
Sundiel
Inevitable Outcome
E.C.H.O
#10 - 2013-10-04 13:45:22 UTC
Before the nerfs ratting titans were pretty common in some places.
Gnadolin
Space Pioneers
#11 - 2013-10-05 10:10:41 UTC
In my opinion the penalty for shooting smaller targets can be removed, now after they changed the guns itself.
SFM Hobb3s
Perkone
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-10-05 19:55:35 UTC
To answer your question, despite any of the responses above, YES. Ratting Titans ABSOLUTELY work wonders. I swear it.