Linux

If you dont belive me, then dont. Its just the things you hear if you follow linux-oriented-users (meeting devs at several occasions) via various media etc..

But i have no hard proof.



Wine can and (afaik) is being detected as Platform by Eve. CCP has the user-data. If they were a major factor we would have seen such consequences from it.


Last numbers i remember (dunno if it was from eve or another game) were about 5% for mac and a bit lower for linux. i suppose this is not much different in eve.


What i would like is some kind of multiplatform-binary .. so you have a x86-compiled binary, a x86_64 (basically a 64-bit-loader switching to x86) and (to me important) an arm-binary.
Wine has arm-support (as WindowsRT is arm) and my smartphone runs on arm/android.. the capability (in terms of cpu/gpu/ram/resolution/...) would be way enough for eve :D

but i doubt that such project will be realised in short time.

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btw: i have no problems whatsoever with eve under wine. Some minor graphical-errors on max-settings (driver? hardware? definetly not eve but my system..), but no features that wont work. I can use eve-voice to chat with dustbunnies, walk in my CQ with my trader, can use the char-creator and all other stuff that was not working for a long time.
All without any overrides (just blacklisting d3dx11 due to the wine-implementation not being full implemented) or other stuff.
So yes, it basically runs perfect.

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I would prefer a unix-solution (not only linux, but also native mac and android (arm!)) as well, but the numbers estimated in this thread look a bit low for such a project. With their SCRUM-planning i would think that you need about 2 teams (12-15 developers) working fulltime for about 2-3 expansions (roughly 12-18 sprints) - but thats just my guess from outside.

I think whats interesting is, the way windows is heading. Microsoft wants some kind of store with licensed software (like apple has with its store and linux has it with its packet-management). One step is Metro and making "The Desktop" only one App of many. They already said they will continue this with Win9/10. MS is just missing out a ton of money - because everyone uses their platform, but they dont pay for the usage. Imagine some kind of steam-platform for everything where MS gets a small cut. This is where they are heading. Moreover they Unify Mobile/Tablet-Devices with PC (Windows RT/Win 8 "feel" the same). Would be hard to tell users why they can use Eve on the one (Win8) but not on the other (WinRT for arm-stuff like tablets/smartphones), although both have about the same cpu/gpu-power..

Like CCP Dr.EyjoG always sais: "Interesting times...."

Because of the many security problems with windows, I do not have any such at all. I also would love to see some native linux client of eve-online. I would not even care so much about fancy graphics. I just would like to see it run stable, even if it looks like crap!

Just having it run stable would already be a novum!

Just do it, CCP!

Don't expect this to happen any time soon (speaking in years). CCP would need to hire a whole Linux team to to this. This is nothing like the humbebundle-games. EVE is an MMO with constant development. You not only need to port it once, you need to iterate on that, test it and do all other QA stuff in full scope that you need to to for the Windows client. The whole client needs a rewrite, its not just wrapping windows into wine like the old and failed "Linux client" was.
Isn't the Mac client only a wrapped Windows version, too?

And yes, transgaming is horrible. A clean wine setup runs quite stable. Aside from the Launcher issues recently which needed a patch for wine, I had no stability issues at all over the last month.
I know other games that need much babysitting to get the run under wine.

I'm a pure Linux user for many years now, even my machine at work is on Linux (the only one in the company). Never hit a point where I would say I need Windows again.

Eve online is written in Stackless Python, yet there's no Linux client....go figure. A new install of Ubuntu 13.04 64-bit took some time figuring out how to add i386 repositories cause it don't work out of the box. That meant CLI.

The problem is there's already a solution to playing EVE on Linux. And the truth is the FPS is just too damn fast and smooth, actually far better than windows to bother.

http://www.playonlinux.com/en/ - surprisingly, the program written written in Python....

In all serious though, I don't understand how it's written in Python and not native in Linux, that just doesn't make sense to me.

I would be tempted to say that graphics are the only real issue here. Audio and networking code are comparatively easy to write in a platform-independent way, graphics on the other side can be written that way but since EVE uses DirectX instead of OpenGL, would require a lot of work in this case.

That said, other companies (namely Valve atm) have shown that porting games to OpenGL is not only far from impossible but may even result in better performance, CCP on the other hand appear to be busy with other things.

well since microsoft built backdoors for the nsa cia ect to break into our computers so I came here hoping for a linux version hoping to delete my windows client and tell ms fu but guess not everybody has to use the base system the nsa likes to spy on us with

We had that, was crap so people used wine instead of the winelib version.

I'd love to see a linux version but yeah doubt it will happen.

I just want to chime in and support the Linux mob. I only use Windows for a handful of games. I will not be going to Windows 8 or MacOS, so when the time comes that I cannot get security updates for Windows 7, I will be going Linux and abandoning any games that won't run natively (or well with Wine).

OpenGL is a faster, more advanced, more compact system than DirectX. OpenGL works on Windows XP, DirectX 10 does not.

CCP should not just "make a Linux version". They should dump the dying and bloated DirectX and switch completely to OpenGL.