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Gunnery Skill time changes! - CCP do we get a SP refund!

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JinSanJong
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-10-01 10:21:46 UTC
So CCP have decided to make the skill training time for turrets the same as missiles! All well and good for new players or players that havent trained them yet. But what about all us vets who have SPENT MONTHS training each lower skill/specials and then then next levels in that order! Are you going to give us some SP refund so we can spend on other skills, that we could of trained if we didnt have to spend months training this.

Implementing stuff like this is simply not fair to the people who have (and there are many) who have spent a lot of time training these gunnery skills. I know similar things have been done in the past, but we are talking on a much larger scale here, MUCH larger.

This is useless to me because I have trained everything in gunnery and a bit of a **** take tbh
Kialopreyst
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-10-01 10:24:13 UTC
2/10

No.
Silvetica Dian
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#3 - 2013-10-01 10:28:20 UTC
i am sure as soon as they remove small guns from the game and thus make the skill useless they will refund the SP until then why would or should they?

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Kagura Nikon
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#4 - 2013-10-01 10:28:27 UTC
Use those skills.

You can fly Frigates as well.


IF they had changed the skilsl all to rank 1, then yes I would like a compensation. But changing requisites of skilsl taht still work .. nope.

"If brute force does not solve your problem....  then you are  surely not using enough!"
Feer Truelight
#5 - 2013-10-01 10:31:01 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:
So CCP have decided to make the skill training time for turrets the same as missiles! All well and good for new players or players that havent trained them yet. But what about all us vets who have SPENT MONTHS training each lower skill/specials and then then next levels in that order! Are you going to give us some SP refund so we can spend on other skills, that we could of trained if we didnt have to spend months training this.

Implementing stuff like this is simply not fair to the people who have (and there are many) who have spent a lot of time training these gunnery skills. I know similar things have been done in the past, but we are talking on a much larger scale here, MUCH larger.

This is useless to me because I have trained everything in gunnery and a bit of a **** take tbh


Who says someone isn't using the lower tier turrets? Why refund something you actually use?

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Daimon Kaiera
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-10-01 10:33:36 UTC
Eve-O is great if you read it like satire.

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Turelus
Utassi Security
The Curatores Veritatis Auxiliary
#7 - 2013-10-01 10:36:50 UTC
You wont get SP because you're not losing anything.

Your wasted time training for large guns isn't wasted because you can now use every single T2 gun of that class, something the players training right to large wont have.
If CCP give you SP back they're going to have to take away your medium and small spec skills.

Turelus CEO Utassi Security
Jada Maroo
Native Freshfood
Minmatar Republic
#8 - 2013-10-01 10:43:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Jada Maroo
You should be thankful. CCP has given you a great "In my day...!" story to tell to nooblets when you become a bittervet.
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-10-01 10:45:10 UTC
Kialopreyst wrote:
2/10

No.



Just this

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Lucas Kell
Solitude Trading
S.N.O.T.
#10 - 2013-10-01 10:48:12 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:
So CCP have decided to make the skill training time for turrets the same as missiles! All well and good for new players or players that havent trained them yet. But what about all us vets who have SPENT MONTHS training each lower skill/specials and then then next levels in that order! Are you going to give us some SP refund so we can spend on other skills, that we could of trained if we didnt have to spend months training this.

Implementing stuff like this is simply not fair to the people who have (and there are many) who have spent a lot of time training these gunnery skills. I know similar things have been done in the past, but we are talking on a much larger scale here, MUCH larger.

This is useless to me because I have trained everything in gunnery and a bit of a **** take tbh
Erm... No.
Explain to me how it's not fair. You an any other player will have the same training time, it's not like you are being delayed at all.
CCP makes changes to the game, this is just the way it goes. If they make something useless, then they will refund, but they won't refund because you may or may not have chosen to do things differently had this change been made in the past. And they've told us in advance this is coming so we can halt any in progress training if we feel the need. My guys will always train all levels of guns anyway so as the meta changes, so can I.
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Solstice Project's Alt
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-10-01 11:05:57 UTC
NOT THIS **** AGAIN !

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Solstice Project's Alt
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-10-01 11:07:42 UTC
Daimon Kaiera wrote:
Eve-O is great if you read it like satire.
For this, i grant you the status that enables you to carry a few of my babies.

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WhipDiddyWhip
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#13 - 2013-10-01 11:11:19 UTC
can someone link where ccp said about theses changes?

being a 4 month old player i like this idea, it already takes an age to just become effective at pvp, this should help new players fly ships they are actually interested in effectively instead of just staring at a skill queue for months
ACE McFACE
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-10-01 11:11:21 UTC
I don't know about you but I actually use my skills. I don't train into Medium Pulses, then never touch small pulses again.

Now, more than ever, we need a dislike button.
Guttripper
State War Academy
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-10-01 11:15:25 UTC
Which angle is worse - the original poster complaining about the change _or_ CCP deciding after ten plus years a change is suddenly necessary to help ~new~ players...?
Lord LazyGhost
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-10-01 11:16:50 UTC
hahahaha poor you makes cross training for other BS sized guns easyer for me hahha love it
KnowUsByTheDead
Sunlight...Through The Blight.
#17 - 2013-10-01 11:21:42 UTC
Shut up.

Once you realize what a joke everything is, being the comedian is the only thing that makes sense.
Rakshasa Taisab
Sane Industries Inc.
#18 - 2013-10-01 11:24:47 UTC
I also want my subscription fees refunded, please?

Nyan
Malcanis
Vanishing Point.
The Initiative.
#19 - 2013-10-01 11:30:59 UTC
JinSanJong wrote:
not fair


You must be at least 13 years old to play EVE online.

"Just remember later that I warned against any change to jump ranges or fatigue. You earned whats coming."

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Vera Algaert
Republic University
Minmatar Republic
#20 - 2013-10-01 11:32:20 UTC
A SP refund alone will not do as I trained many of these skills years ago.

I demand a SP refund with interest. I think 7.5% interest/month would be fair but I am open to negotiations on the exact number.

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