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Soe Pirate ships are great and look awesome but....
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Serithin
Rage Against Machine
#21 - 2013-10-01 01:13:53 UTC
Okay so after reading all the ideas so far I can say this.

1. serpentis and angels are kind of redundant it more like one is a hybrid version for gallente and the other is projectiles for minmatar.

2. Fast high damage Missile Hit and run skirmish boat

3. instead of tanking it just make it a high resist ship with more guns less tanking

4. we all know there are ships out the that are like these but that can be said about any pirate faction.

5. where does it fit in the niche spot / what is it special pirate bonus

6. also this is to try and make a model for a minmatar/caldari cross ship through the community not to bash on it and say "Its been done we need moar this" so please constructive thoughts so we can come to a conclusion of an awesome hybrid cross.

7. to any of the nay sayers I also believe all pirate factions should be made playable I.E. EoM Caldari/amarr railgun boats
STush T
House of Tuachair
#22 - 2013-10-01 02:48:35 UTC
I think for lore reason the SoE ships should have to train all 4 empire ship lines. Ridicules you say, but it would be a lore appropriate decision. To balance that out, make the ships more powerful. Give the ships bonuses to projectile fired, drone guided, laser shooting missiles. Seriously though, maybe give them a bonus to things unrelated to dps, after all SoE isnt an aggressive faction. Maybe no turret or missile slots but bonuses to ewar. Course that makes them useless unless they're in a fleet. . .
Pbatt
Back To Basics.
#23 - 2013-10-01 07:17:47 UTC
I'm actually quite suprised no one considered a shield resistance bonus combined with a tracking bonus.

Tie into that a role bonus of 25% damage for projectile turrets and I could see a 5/6/4 pirate cruiser with a similar BS shiptype which instead of a shield resistance bonus trades in for a missile ROF bonus alongside a missile explosion radius bonus. The role bonus for this shiptype would be a 25% reduced signature radius at all times whether under MWD or not. That is something uniquely minmatar imo. Small signature radius shield tanking projectile boats is minny and high resist shield tanking missile boats is caldari.

Of course I could just be totally wrong! :P
Gypsio III
State War Academy
Caldari State
#24 - 2013-10-01 08:17:56 UTC
ShahFluffers wrote:
My suspicion is that Guristas might be made into pure missile slingers when the DEVs get around to rebalancing the pirate faction ships.


Maybe, but there's already a perfectly good line of faction missile ships. Introducing another would have to have some special feature about it, otherwise it's just pointless duplication.
Silenciel
Penguins at school
#25 - 2013-10-01 08:59:20 UTC
No.

SOE is not pirate faction.
Does any pirate faction have stations in hi and low-sec ? No.
SOE yes.

SOE is full Gallente friend : +8 standing. It's more than between Amarr and Caldari.
And if you do combat mission for SOE, you get the same as Gallente. Shooting Caldaris and Amarrs are commons.

SOE is more like Khanids or Thukkers wich have actually their own ships and own technology. They are respectively Amarr and Minmatar skills revelant.

So, talking about SOE ships with Amarr/Gallente skills is irrevelant.
HiddenPorpoise
Jarlhettur's Drop
United Federation of Conifers
#26 - 2013-10-01 09:01:42 UTC
Silenciel wrote:
So, talking about SOE ships with Amarr/Gallente skills is irrevelant.

Someone didn't watch the announcement.
Veshta Yoshida
PIE Inc.
Khimi Harar
#27 - 2013-10-01 09:18:35 UTC
Amarr/Gallente does not compute, will be more like GALLENTE/amarr (note the capitalization) as they have no idea what to do with or to Amarr .. the Amarr tiericide changes have been all over the map with very little consistency other than being seemingly random.

Won't make a lick of difference though as SoE are peaceniks and the ships will probably be geared towards cloaking exploration with whopper cargo hold and a semi-effective RR capability,
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