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Capsuleers and Corporate Research Don't Mix

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Retro Dallas
Doomheim
#1 - 2013-10-01 00:36:02 UTC  |  Edited by: Retro Dallas
A few weeks ago I got hired by Duvolle Laboratories to look into the prospects of compressing antimatter for use in hybrid charges. This is shortly after my graduation from the Federal Navy Academy so I was very eager to get myself in a lab and get to work. But, of course, this is antimatter, the wonderful negative material that annihilates regular matter in a violent reaction that mostly makes gamma ray photons.

I didn't think of that at the time.

So naturally, Antimatter is a simple equation: ( radioactive isotope + gamma quanta ) + matter = quanta decaying into matter and antimatter.

For this project, I'm with my physicist crew members Michael. We throw some switches, activate a laser, and soon we get two different containers flooding with matter and antimatter, like sepration of hydrogen and oxygen from water. We managed to have enough materials to make about a single kilogram of antimatter. With our tub held in stasis away from any kind of regular matter, we get to compression!

We assumed that antimatter would have the same properties as any regular matter, that with enough pressure massive amounts of regular matter can be squeezed into any size you want. The experiment was going smooth. We found that we can take the kilogram of antimatter and squeeze it to a five centermeter sphere. It was during this time that a power surge hit us.

Regular power got knocked out and an on site battery kicked in. It was at this time that Michael and I looked like we **** our pants. Did I mention yet that we had a group of twenty people observing this research? Well, they were there, and wondering just what was making us pale and shaking like an Amarr in a cleansing pool.

Simply put, a single kilogram of antimatter, when reacting with regular matter, anihillating each other, make 180 petajoules (18 with sixteen zeroes behind it) of energy, about the same as 43 megatons of TNT. And we happen to be using an amazing amount of power just to hold this bomb in a sphere that could fit in your hand. I looked up at the reserve power to discover that we had already used up 7% of the energy in the reserve battery. So, it was time to get everyone out of the building and far away.

I was about to jump out of the building myself, I mean, I don't really like taking a shower with Gamma Photons, that stuff burns terribly and leaves a bad aftertaste after waking up in a med facility. Which is exactly the reason why security shoved Michael out and locked me in giving me the order to shutdown the container.

About three or four minutes passed from the surge, and turns out that 38% of the energy in the battery was depleted. More than a third used up, so I had about six to eight minutes left. Of course, the power surge locked the mechanical controls holding the tub, it's part of the company plan to maximize the amount of power the battery could manage. I mean, if they used a generator then we could keep the place powered as long as we had fuel, but, of course, that would cause unwanted pollution which was clearly a terrible thing with all the hippies.

I climbed through some radiation shielding, grabbed the tools available to me and had to manually crank the power feed to the tub, slowly releasing the pressure around the antimatter, and allowing the tub's nuclear battery to manage the stasis around the antimatter. I did get a little bit of a burn, but it's nothing that decontamination couldn't handle. When I got back to the lab, it turned out that the building had 7% of power left. So...hurray! A research lab didn't explode.

So, we proved that antimatter, like regular matter, can be squeezed with pressure. In other news, some scientists are finding if rain makes people wet. The next question of course, would be what can we do with squeezed antimatter, and what power source do we use to keep it contained.

That'll be for another scientist to find out. I had enough.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-10-01 00:43:53 UTC
Retro Dallas wrote:

That the reason why Duvolle hired me was because I was renewable expendible if such an incident happened.


I doubt this is the case. SImply because you need to be hooked up to your pod in order to be cloned. They wouldn't hire you for this purpose unless you were doing work inside the pod/ship, which seems unlikely given your description of the events.

You should try working at CreoDron like I did after I graduated. None of that dangerous anti-matter stuff, just the risk of accidentally giving an AI conciseness as well as a deep hatred for humantity and being forced to terminate it or else run the risk of it hi-jacking the station computers, removing all of the atmosphere killing everyone inside, and deorbiting the whole thing into a major population center.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Retro Dallas
Doomheim
#3 - 2013-10-01 02:20:08 UTC  |  Edited by: Retro Dallas
Fredfredbug4 wrote:
You should try working at CreoDron like I did after I graduated. None of that dangerous anti-matter stuff, just the risk of accidentally giving an AI conciseness as well as a deep hatred for humantity and being forced to terminate it or else run the risk of it hi-jacking the station computers, removing all of the atmosphere killing everyone inside, and deorbiting the whole thing into a major population center.


I'll consider CreoDron, I'm a fan of their work. Just I feel like ending a world through a giant explosion is more humane.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-10-01 03:34:36 UTC  |  Edited by: Fredfredbug4
Retro Dallas wrote:


I believe you are not quite up to date on the advancement of clone technology that is currently being implemented with footsoldiers. Were you spending your time getting high off a nebula? That's a pretty huge thing to miss.

An implant is inserted that allows the transfer of the consciouness without the need of a capsule. My very first clone still has this implant before I chose to become a Capsuleer, and it's at the point that if I don't have that thing in my head, then I feel empty.


And I believe you are full of crap, because not a single capsuleer in history has also used the sleeper implants on DUST troops. Stop lying.

Not only do capsuleers not use sleeper implants, but they are 100% incompatible with a capsuleer. Attempting to combine the two would most likely kill you or drive you insane.

(Out of Character: It looks like you're new so I'll cut you some slack. Read up the scientific articles, EVElopedia pages, and chronicles regarding capsuleer and DUST technology. They are very different and it's important to know the difference to prevent yourself from being embarrassed.)

Retro Dallas wrote:

I'll consider CreoDron, I'm a fan of their work. Just I feel like ending a world through a giant explosion is more humane.


In which case, stick to what you went into the Naval Academy, for, blowing stuff up. Become a mercenary, anti-pirate, or join the Federal Defense Union. It makes little sense to go into engineering when that is clearly what you do not specialize in. Not only that you will never land a serious job in that field, but any job you do land will probably get you killed.

Going into CreoDron may be no more than being a human test subject to make sure medical drones don't rip your heart out when assisting in an operation. Without proper credentials it will be very difficult to go into an engineering job. Of course if you study up some more and acquire the proper certification you should have no problem landing a job you didn't necessarily go to school for. For example, I honed my combat skills independently while studying Drone AIs and Interstellar Communications. This has landed me many jobs in the automation, the media, and in combat. I would recommend sticking to your line of work for now, and aquiring proper certification to go into other fields.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Makkal Hanaya
Revenent Defence Corperation
#5 - 2013-10-01 15:55:11 UTC
Great story.

Not sure if I believe it, but entertaining nonetheless.

Render unto Khanid the things which are Khanid's; and unto God the things that are God's.

Constantin Baracca
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#6 - 2013-10-01 17:40:57 UTC
You know Fred, I've heard of these things before. I asked a friend of mine to provide a synopsis of it. After receiving his synopsis, I asked him to try to translate it from technical jargon into something a bit easier to understand. The essence I have received is that although the capsule is necessary to run the transmitter and to operate the ship, you can actually use the brain scanner from some distance from the capsule. It simply needs to be jacked into your head and you need to be wired to the capsule.

From what I understand, a 'portable' brain scanner isn't necessarily hard to do, but you can't be very far from the capsule because the capsule still needs to transmit your brain scan. And we don't have the wireless technology to be able to transmit it in a gravity well, so there needs to be a "lifeline" to the capsule's computer. Also, you can't be euthanized, so your former self will suffer greatly after the transfer.

Apparently, people used to use this in dangerous situations. The emergence of DUST implants somewhat changed the nature of the game, but I'm not sure how many DUST soldiers are available to assist in research lab projects. Still, I have heard of people using a brain scanner hooked up to a capsule.

They also needed to drag the capsule into the lab with them or take the lab into the deck.

I suppose it is a good thing he didn't need it, in the end. Can a brain scan happen during an antimatter armaggeddon?

"What good will it be for someone to gain the whole world, yet forfeit their soul? Or what can anyone give in exchange for their soul?"

-Matthew 16:26

Sorjat
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-10-01 18:35:06 UTC
Interesting story Pilot Dallas. There have been quite a few researchers who have had similar stories while researching various things... Among many stories are the folks who played with Jovian technology, nanite technology, bio-engineering and alien wreck exploration, etc. A common thread through all of them is that most had something unforseen or unexplainable happen to them.

So don't let that deter you in the future! Research can be hazardous but it does have rewards. I might suggest a non-Gallentean employer. As you have seen, Gallentean corporations treat employees as disposable garbage. The Caldari would consider it your duty to die for the State. The Amarr would consider you to have been 'reclaimed'.

For those reasons I personally prefer the Minmatar as they tend to treat employees better than most. I believe knowing abuse of workers violating tribal ethics can lead to some very serious consequences has a way of keeping the most egregious abuses away.

Insanity is not hubris, not pride; it is inflation of the ego to its ultimate - confusion between him who worships and that which is worshipped. Man has not eaten God; God has eaten man.

-- PKD

Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#8 - 2013-10-01 18:41:17 UTC
I take offense, Mr Sorjat. Lai Dai has been a marvelous employer, and I could make no recommendation stronger than to apply to Lai Dai Research, if the original poster is looking for work. Professionalism and precision are our watchwords.

It is not our duty to die for the State, but our pleasure to live for it.
Sorjat
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-10-01 19:13:53 UTC
Pilot Scherezed, the opinion I expressed is strictly my own and I'll be the first to admit that I have not worked for every corporation... I believe that would be challenging, even for an immortal. I have however, worked for the Ishukone corporation and based on that limited exposure I have had most of my prejudices confirmed.

You'll note, and most Caldari would probably agree that Ishukone is not like most Caldari corporations and I can confirm that it is absolutely true!! I would have to describe them as the most liberal faction within the State. That being said, I've personally heard many Caldari describe them as 'traitors' for negotiating with the Federation to lead relief convoys to Luminaire after the Shiigeru landed on it. (I believe some enterprising individuals now offer sightseeing tours to see it... but I digress). They are however, most definitely Caldari to the core of their regimented beings. Lai Dai could be different but in all probability it is worse.

As I said, I prefer Minmatar simply because tribal customs, (ie: revenge), keep things civil.

Insanity is not hubris, not pride; it is inflation of the ego to its ultimate - confusion between him who worships and that which is worshipped. Man has not eaten God; God has eaten man.

-- PKD

Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#10 - 2013-10-01 19:44:36 UTC
I have always enjoyed my interactions with Ishukone, and don't think them any less Caldari than Lai Dai. We are quite happily loyal to the State, as is Ishu, in its own way. Many paths to the future, after all! I'm sorry your time with them was not as pleasant as it might have been, and wish you the best in your future employment.
Retro Dallas
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-10-01 23:04:27 UTC  |  Edited by: Retro Dallas
Scherezad wrote:
Sorjat wrote:
Gallentean corporations treat employees as disposable garbage.
I take offense, Mr Sorjat


Yes that is quite offensive, for a second there I thought you were Diana Kim about to tell me, "This is the REEEASON why the Federation must be DESTROYED!" Have you seen our clothes? We dress nice because a lot of Gallenteans like to make each other look and feel great. If I was looking to be treated like garbage I'd just fly out to Nullsec.

Constantin Baracca wrote:
Can a brain scan happen during an antimatter armaggeddon?


Thinking of it, this likely wouldn't work. With that much energy being expended, the body would be vaporized easily if it would be close to the blast and remain through the shockwave. Capsule technology detects when a breach is about to occur so there's enough time to transmit a snapshot. I would actually be doubtful it could happen, any volunteers to see if it'd work?.....anyone....no? Thought I had someone this time.

Scherezad wrote:
I could make no recommendation stronger than to apply to Lai Dai Research, if the original poster is looking for work


I'll check out Lai Dai and see what they offer. What I'm actually amazed with is Sorjat's point that these things seem to happen with a lot of Researchers out there. But well, that's what happens when you don't check your info before jumping into your first public spot. Lessons learned.
Retro Dallas
Doomheim
#12 - 2013-10-01 23:12:16 UTC  |  Edited by: Retro Dallas
Scherezad wrote:
Sorjat wrote:
Gallentean corporations treat employees as disposable garbage.
I take offense, Mr Sorjat


Yes that is quite offensive, for a second there I thought you were Diana Kim about to tell me, "This is the REEEASON why the Federation must be DESTROYED!" Have you seen our clothes? We dress nice because a lot of Gallenteans like to make each other look and feel great. If I was looking to be treated like garbage I'd just fly out to Nullsec.

Constantin Baracca wrote:
Can a brain scan happen during an antimatter armaggeddon?


Thinking of it, this likely wouldn't work. With that much energy being expended, the body would be vaporized easily if it would be close to the blast and remain through the shockwave. Capsule technology detects when a breach is about to occur so there's enough time to transmit a snapshot. I would actually be doubtful it could happen, and if there's an idiot out there who would want to try it, I'll set you up.

Scherezad wrote:
I could make no recommendation stronger than to apply to Lai Dai Research, if the original poster is looking for work


I'll check out Lai Dai and see what they offer. What I'm actually amazed with is Sorjat's point that these things seem to happen with a lot of Researchers out there. But well, that's what happens when you don't check your info before jumping into your first public spot. Lessons learned.
Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#13 - 2013-10-02 02:39:22 UTC
Sorjat wrote:
As you have seen, Gallentean corporations treat employees as disposable garbage.


That couldn't be more incorrect. The entire reason why we are the leading drone and AI manufacturer in the cluster is because we don't have that attitude.

There's a reason why hard labor and dangerous jobs are almost impossible to come by in the Federation. We've replaced the human lives with drones. Drones are expendable, people are not.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Fredfredbug4
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-10-02 02:42:01 UTC
Sorjat wrote:
As you have seen, Gallentean corporations treat employees as disposable garbage.


That couldn't be more incorrect. The entire reason why we are the leading drone and AI manufacturer in the cluster is because we don't have that attitude.

There's a reason why hard labor and dangerous jobs are almost impossible to come by in the Federation. We've replaced the human lives with drones. Drones are expendable, people are not.

Watch_ Fred Fred Frederation_ and stop [u]cryptozoologist[/u]! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it!

Arkady Vachon
The Gold Angels
Sixth Empire
#15 - 2013-10-02 07:03:36 UTC
Scherezad wrote:
I take offense, Mr Sorjat. Lai Dai has been a marvelous employer, and I could make no recommendation stronger than to apply to Lai Dai Research, if the original poster is looking for work. Professionalism and precision are our watchwords.

It is not our duty to die for the State, but our pleasure to live for it.



I've had good business dealings with Ms Scherezad and Lai Dai Research, and its nice to be able to see what she looks like in person instead of an outline.

Nothing Personal - Just Business...

Chaos Creates Content

Leopold Caine
Stillwater Corporation
#16 - 2013-10-02 07:17:25 UTC
Sincerely, I'd expect security standards in such an installation would be a bit higher than having a single micro UPS in case incidents like this happen.

Not too surprised however. Entertained would be a better word.
  • Leopold Caine, Domination Malakim

Angels are never far...

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Pieter Tuulinen
Societas Imperialis Sceptri Coronaeque
Khimi Harar
#17 - 2013-10-02 08:46:45 UTC
Sorjat wrote:
Pilot Scherezed, the opinion I expressed is strictly my own and I'll be the first to admit that I have not worked for every corporation... I believe that would be challenging, even for an immortal. I have however, worked for the Ishukone corporation and based on that limited exposure I have had most of my prejudices confirmed.

You'll note, and most Caldari would probably agree that Ishukone is not like most Caldari corporations and I can confirm that it is absolutely true!! I would have to describe them as the most liberal faction within the State. That being said, I've personally heard many Caldari describe them as 'traitors' for negotiating with the Federation to lead relief convoys to Luminaire after the Shiigeru landed on it. (I believe some enterprising individuals now offer sightseeing tours to see it... but I digress). They are however, most definitely Caldari to the core of their regimented beings. Lai Dai could be different but in all probability it is worse.

As I said, I prefer Minmatar simply because tribal customs, (ie: revenge), keep things civil.


I was fortunate enough to operate under Oniseki-haani's command during that convoy action. I'm a Patriot - possibly one of the most Patrioty Patriot's that you're likely to meet.

I respect Ishukone as one of the Okusaiken. I'm not saying that I agree with everything that they do, but they're one of us.

For the first time since I started the conversation, he looks me dead in the eye. In his gaze are steel jackhammers, quiet vengeance, a hundred thousand orbital bombs frozen in still life.

Sorjat
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#18 - 2013-10-02 13:21:10 UTC
I didn't mean to offend anyone and as I stated my opinions are my own. I am Gallentean and I'm just calling it like I see it. As for my "they treat you like disposable garbage comment" that is based on personal experience.

As a young graduate student I volunteered to be part of an AI 'thought experiment.' Students were neurally connected to some of the AI programs that animate Gallente drone technology. Well, let me tell you something... Gallente engineers didn't just give those things Artificial Intelligence, they also gave them feelings! Most are relatively benign and fairly indpendent like their programmers, others have cute fuzzy feelings like a proverbial 'kitten' but some of those monsters are utterly enraged and hate humanity!

Imagine a starved, tortured, beaten enraged slaver hound going off inside your head and taking over your brain! I actually watched a fellow grad student begin ingesting herself... it was very disturbing to say the least! (Fortunately, she was saved... restrained, sedated and given new, artificial intestines. Apparently, medical and psychological intervention was successful and she is a happily married mother and professional. I have maintained casual contact and friends tell me she is 'normal' although she is prone to occcasionally to sniffing butts and eats only raw, bloody meat. Otherwise she is fine...)

As for me I survived the experience physically unscathed as I had neglected to mention to the experimentors that I had a neural implant... which disrupted the AI from taking me over. I was able to disconnect from the AI links and run screaming out of the labratory being chased by a bunch of students turned slaver hounds.

So I have a rather unique perspective on those Gallentean thought experiments! As I ran screaming from the building the Gallentean researchers said they wouldn't pay me because I was leaving early. Starving student that I was I told them to take their 20 ISK and shove it up their @ss!

So like I said. They treat you like disposable garbage!

Insanity is not hubris, not pride; it is inflation of the ego to its ultimate - confusion between him who worships and that which is worshipped. Man has not eaten God; God has eaten man.

-- PKD

Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#19 - 2013-10-02 14:50:41 UTC
Sorjat wrote:
I didn't mean to offend anyone and as I stated my opinions are my own. I am Gallentean and I'm just calling it like I see it. As for my "they treat you like disposable garbage comment" that is based on personal experience.

As a young graduate student I volunteered to be part of an AI 'thought experiment.' Students were neurally connected to some of the AI programs that animate Gallente drone technology. Well, let me tell you something... Gallente engineers didn't just give those things Artificial Intelligence, they also gave them feelings! Most are relatively benign and fairly indpendent like their programmers, others have cute fuzzy feelings like a proverbial 'kitten' but some of those monsters are utterly enraged and hate humanity!

[...]

So I have a rather unique perspective on those Gallentean thought experiments! As I ran screaming from the building the Gallentean researchers said they wouldn't pay me because I was leaving early. Starving student that I was I told them to take their 20 ISK and shove it up their @ss!

So like I said. They treat you like disposable garbage!


This was done at the Federal Naval Academy? I shudder to think of such an experiment, much less imagine it carried out within the heart of the Federation. What in the Maker's work would compel a research team to do this sort of thing? You have my deep sympathies for your experience. The Todaki SAK campus has been accused of being a little cavalier in its research discretion, but never so blatantly wasteful and immoral!

I hate to sound pedantic about it, but the above is one of many cautionary tales regarding AI research. The CreoDron model of network development is dangerous, wasteful, and without rigor. For the love of our ancestors, when will we see sense in this research field?
Scherezad
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
#20 - 2013-10-02 14:51:15 UTC
Arkady Vachon wrote:
Scherezad wrote:
I take offense, Mr Sorjat. Lai Dai has been a marvelous employer, and I could make no recommendation stronger than to apply to Lai Dai Research, if the original poster is looking for work. Professionalism and precision are our watchwords.

It is not our duty to die for the State, but our pleasure to live for it.



I've had good business dealings with Ms Scherezad and Lai Dai Research, and its nice to be able to see what she looks like in person instead of an outline.

We're always happy for visitors, please feel free to come by whenever you like :)
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