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Missle boats and Drone space

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Sokniw
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-09-30 17:00:49 UTC  |  Edited by: Sokniw
So I'm trying to find the best option to use for ratting out in Drone Regions like Outer Passage.

Requirements, Has to be missiles, has to be cap stable, and preferably not tank dependent on prop mod.

Lets see what kinda ideas are out there, im not lookin for max profit, but im trying to get, 10mil ticks at the least.


Also i know the best options are carriers, sentry boats of the type. But thats not an option for this.
Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#2 - 2013-09-30 22:20:08 UTC
Drake Big smile
Sokniw
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-10-01 15:10:39 UTC
Bump still lookin for good suggestions, was going to do a drake. but i dont think it has much isk potential.
Bobinu
Unsober
Last Picks
#4 - 2013-10-01 15:45:39 UTC
Raven is a nice boat, esp with some of the new modules coming.

Good range too, if you plan to chain the belts, can warp in at 100km, clear the belt and warp on. Spare high slot for salvager and tractor beam, after you have cleared each belt, you can warp to your wrecks, the looting etc should give time for the next wave to spawn.

Typhoon same set up.

Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#5 - 2013-10-01 15:50:43 UTC
Well the Legion's T2 resist profile makes it very well suited to tanking rouge drones and both of its weapon systems do plenty of EM damage which rouge drones are weak to.
ready4impact
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#6 - 2013-10-01 19:05:56 UTC
Well, usually I would recommend you to drop the missiles and take up lasers or at least move to gurista area and take an assault tengu because of tengu's natural ultra high kin/them tank and optimal damage type bonuses.

However, honestly, your only options in Sansha space w/ missiles is the Assault Legion:
You can also use 100mn AB, I put the MWD so save time on breaking the inertia when blitzing the belts

[Legion, Ratting]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor EM Hardener II
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Medium Armor Repairer II

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Warp Disruptor II
Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Warhead Flare Catalyst II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II

Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Legion Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization
Legion Propulsion - Wake Limiter

Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#7 - 2013-10-01 19:48:55 UTC
If you are going to rat in a HAM Legion at least put 6 launchers on it.
Mra Rednu
Vanishing Point.
#8 - 2013-10-01 20:41:09 UTC
Sokniw wrote:
Bump still lookin for good suggestions, was going to do a drake. but i dont think it has much isk potential.


Fair comment but you could very easily take 50-100 hours of ratting to make up the diference in bounties over initial cost diference in the ships if went for a t3 etc, maybe try one and see ?

Or could try Sacrilege or Cerberus, both solid and would do a good job and probably get you halfway between a Drake and a Tengu bounty tick wise.

Tengu or Legion as suggested, really don't use THAT legion fit though, thats just horrible.

I know it got to be missile but a pulse legion is a very good sub BS option for drone regions, def worth looking at if you could, the highest ticks generally come from the laser user's unless using carriers.

Raven also would be ok, may creak a bit in the Hordes but is certainaly capable of running them and depending on how safe you feel in a BS can always go for a CNR or Golem.
ready4impact
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#9 - 2013-10-01 20:41:22 UTC
Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
If you are going to rat in a HAM Legion at least put 6 launchers on it.

[Legion, Ratting]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Centus C-Type Armor EM Hardener
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Corelum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Warp Disruptor II
Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization
Legion Propulsion - Wake Limiter

Lol, just noticed http://www.ellatha.com/eve/Legion-Config.asp hasn't been updated in ages :))
Antillie Sa'Kan
Imperial Shipment
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-10-01 21:37:46 UTC
A wake limiter and an afterburner? Hu?

I will admit that I am not very good at fitting T3 ships but at least match the mods to the subsystem bonuses.
ready4impact
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#11 - 2013-10-02 04:46:28 UTC
Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
A wake limiter and an afterburner? Hu?

I will admit that I am not very good at fitting T3 ships but at least match the mods to the subsystem bonuses.

Obviously, a mistake. I honestly didn't want to waste any more time on this.
Certain things just do not work and this is one of them. Missiles are clearly so inferior they're basically incomparable.

If the OP wants to run a missile boat for ratting he should move to serp or guristas space for all good sub BS missile boats(only one, HAM tengu) is highly depended on kinetic damage. Assuming of course that he is talking about belt ratting, BS and over are far to heavy and inert to be used in belts. It takes a CNR a year and a half to clear 10 belts w/ bad spawns before he can commence and for profit ratting. Not to mention the time it takes to get in range.

So OP, either go for gunnery or move to guristas/serpentis space(or fit 100MN HAM Legion).
That's it, I'm not returning to this topic.

Regards :)
Sokniw
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-10-15 21:50:28 UTC
ive been using my raven navy issue, works pretty well 13-16mil ticks. But i still love using a carrier 46mil ticks..
Baggo Hammers
#13 - 2013-10-16 00:38:03 UTC
ready4impact wrote:
Antillie Sa'Kan wrote:
If you are going to rat in a HAM Legion at least put 6 launchers on it.

[Legion, Ratting]
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Caldari Navy Ballistic Control System
Centus C-Type Armor EM Hardener
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Corelum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Cap Recharger II
Cap Recharger II
Warp Disruptor II
Republic Fleet 100MN Afterburner

Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile
Heavy Assault Missile Launcher II, Mjolnir Rage Heavy Assault Missile

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump II
Medium Warhead Rigor Catalyst II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

Legion Defensive - Nanobot Injector
Legion Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Legion Engineering - Power Core Multiplier
Legion Offensive - Assault Optimization
Legion Propulsion - Wake Limiter

Lol, just noticed http://www.ellatha.com/eve/Legion-Config.asp hasn't been updated in ages :))



I think OP was hoping for fits from folks who ACTUALLY FLY the ships. Anyone can go to EFT or Ellantha

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.

Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-10-16 01:15:38 UTC
I used a Drake

it did ok.
Ireland VonVicious
Vicious Trading Company
#15 - 2013-10-16 02:03:30 UTC  |  Edited by: Ireland VonVicious
Tengu is the answer you are looking for.

If you are willing to add drones Gila.