EVE General Discussion

Um Salvaging is without question a direct by-product of another activity. It cannot exist without it. THe incentive to mine isnt reduced as noone is in it for the amount of isk, they are in it for the risk free(mostly) easy isk.
You specilize in manufacturing because Ships+T2 modules.

I don't know all the limits on this new toy that'll be coming out but one funny question does come up - will it work for player wrecks?

That could prove rather entertaining and interesting at big-battle sites as some run in and toss these down to try and get player fittings and the like.

never going to happen

it's the same with logical, civilised debate and discussion
you go to other forums for it.

I don't think this is very likely for multiple reasons:

1. While we know it will be deployable, we don't know what it will be deployable by. I.e. is it small enough to be launched from the cargo hold of a battleship or battlecruiser? If not, then this module probably won't be as useful as a Noctis to the solo player.

2. How "big" does it get? How much loot does it hold? Likely you'll have to pick it up with either an industrial or some other high capacity ship.. which then means another time and isk wasting trip.

3. From the sounds of it, the module does not salvage (I could be wrong), so while it will drag loot closer and make it easier, you'll still need to have a ship with a salvage module.

All in all, I think it will be a nice addition to group mission runners as well as the more novice Level 3/Level 4 mission runner, or possibily even belt ratters, but outside of that I don't see where it will effect the minerals market in any significant way.

The way I see it as a benefit, is to remove tractor beams from a dedicated salvager, even at the cost of having multiple Hoovers in place on a field.

A Noctis can still, with expanded cargoholds, get a 2900+ m3 bay. That's a crapton of mission loot.

As usual, Vincent is very sensible.

The prices of raw materials and profits from harvesting are all relative. If it is cheaper to engage in activities that result in new ship purchases, the game is enhanced - and everyone's wealth is still based upon income versus costs. The first wave of destructible POCOs made it more expensive to harvest PI products - and we passed the costs on to the consumer. In this case, if there is a reduction in raw materials costs, the reduction will be felt in ship prices, but profits for ship builders should not really be affected. In fact, if ships are cheaper, you may sell more and earn more ISK.

Like many of the changes in which people predict doom, this may turn out to be just fine.

one-time use is the mbile cynojammer

this one is useable all over, essentially it's a jetcan with a tractor beam. ANYONE can open it (and go suspect, but meh).

I have a suspicion that this is exactly what we'll see (although I could be very wrong). Marauders have a large cargo hold, and if this item is small enough it would be an excellent compliment to a Marauder. Just fill those utility highs with salvage modules.

Of course, for those so disposed, it would work perfectly with a Noctis as well.

It all depends on it's size, and of course it's range too.

Keep in mind this will only work on the wrecks of the ships you yourself kill, so it's PVP uses (or even its group PVE uses, such as Incursions) will be limited.

^^ Pretty much this, it's pointless speculating until we see some preliminary statistics in a Dev blog. The feedback threads for the deployable structures* should be quite interesting.

*do we have a name for them yet? Yurts seems to be making the rounds.

We have certain details from the Marauders thread.
It will have only a single tractor beam.
It will have no velocity buff (Unknown if T1 or T2 Tractor speed)
It will out range Marauders tractor beam (So probably 60+, certainly 50+)

Given that, I am not scared it will tank the mineral market.