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John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#1 - 2013-09-28 08:11:05 UTC
I've been messing around with a Loki fit this morning for fast Lvl 1-3 mission grinding. I wanted to make something that was really effective without being stupidly expensive gank bait. This is 1.3 Bn. It does 494 DPS with Faction ammo which should be enough. I went for T2 Gyros over Faction simply because they only added something like 25 DPS at a cost of 150 Mil - didn't seem worthwhile. Two Faction webs seemed a good idea - not hugely expensive and being able to stop stuff dead at 35KM seemed too good to pass up. Runs cap stable with everything on. Opinions please?

[Loki, Loki - T2]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Corpus A-Type Armor Thermic Hardener
Corpus A-Type Armor Kinetic Hardener
Corpum A-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Tracking Computer II, Tracking Speed Script
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
10MN Afterburner II

425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M
425mm AutoCannon II, Republic Fleet Phased Plasma M

Medium Anti-Kinetic Pump II
Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Gone Beserk
Brutor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#2 - 2013-09-28 08:18:22 UTC
The augemented capacitor and power core multiplier add a turret hardpoint to your ship.

i HIGHLY recommend fitting one of those instead of your current engineering subsystem for more dps.
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#3 - 2013-09-28 08:33:11 UTC  |  Edited by: John Ratcliffe
I'll play around with this a little more. Thanks.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Eggs Ackley
#4 - 2013-09-28 17:17:56 UTC
Play with a shield fit.
Caleidascope
Republic Military School
Minmatar Republic
#5 - 2013-09-28 19:35:37 UTC
Hurricane?

Life is short and dinner time is chancy

Eat dessert first!
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#6 - 2013-09-28 20:18:52 UTC
Caleidascope wrote:
Hurricane?


Falls short by comparison. I've looked at it and at the Fleet Issue.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Mathias Orsen
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-09-29 05:32:39 UTC
494 DPS out of a 1.3 billion isk ship just don't seem worth it. Think I would invest my money into something else. Sleipnir offers way more performance.
John Ratcliffe
Tradors'R'us
IChooseYou Alliance
#8 - 2013-09-29 12:40:06 UTC  |  Edited by: John Ratcliffe
Mathias Orsen wrote:
494 DPS out of a 1.3 billion isk ship just don't seem worth it. Think I would invest my money into something else. Sleipnir offers way more performance.


Yeah, I have one and use it in Lvl 4s at the moment with my RNI. I just wanted something with webs and the Sleipnir doesn't have enough Mids to fit any.

I bought a Tengu to do Lvl 1-3s on my RNI toon, so thought to try a projectile T3 for my Sleipnir toon.

Oh well, a useful exercise nonetheless.

Thanks all.

Plus ça change, plus c'est la même chose
Cage Man
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Pandemic Horde
#9 - 2013-09-29 20:32:46 UTC
I have tried various T3's and other ships for grinding standings and have found the macharial to work better than any ships for this. It has great mobility, range and can target pretty quickly. Tractor beam in the spare high helps to grab mission items. It will pop frigs easily enough up to round 15km. Group the guns into 3 groups and you will fly though the missions.

Overkill?? never.. not in eve..
Lady Naween
Ministry of War
Amarr Empire
#10 - 2013-09-29 23:22:10 UTC
[Loki, pve]
Damage Control II
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Gyrostabilizer
Domination Gyrostabilizer

Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Adaptive Invulnerability Field
Dread Guristas Shield Boost Amplifier
Gistum A-Type 10MN Afterburner
Pithi A-Type Small Shield Booster

425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
425mm AutoCannon II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Projectile Ambit Extension I
Medium Projectile Ambit Extension II

Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Emergent Locus Analyzer
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir

Hobgoblin II
Warrior II

is what i used to use, granted stupid overtank but my main beef with the loki was the horrendously short range. you just have to scoot around way to much for it to be effective. sure was fun for a while but quickly grows old.
Osto Myynti Pserad
Freedom Foundation Services
#11 - 2013-09-30 06:03:47 UTC
Here is Loki fit for LVL 3 missions.
Tested on LVL 4 missions, easy to fly, but not fast enough for my taste...
Just edit it a bit and you can solo most WH C3 sites (tested as well, not optimal but doable).


DPS: 666
Cap stable
Speed: 774

1 high slot to fit what ever you like / can...

[Loki, Loki mission fit]
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Gyrostabilizer II
Capacitor Flux Coil II
Capacitor Flux Coil II

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II
Pith A-Type Large Shield Booster
Shadow Serpentis 10MN Afterburner
Caldari Navy Stasis Webifier

425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
425mm AutoCannon II, Hail M
[empty high slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I
Medium Projectile Burst Aerator I

Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Engineering - Capacitor Regeneration Matrix
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers

Hobgoblin II x5
Hornet EC-300 x5
Darling Hassasin
Parental Control
Didn't want that Sov anyway.
#12 - 2013-09-30 10:23:38 UTC
1. Loki is bad for pve due to dps. If you want to use it anyway...

2. With arties and the arty sub you cn get 450 ish dps. This is 10-20% less -in theory- of what you get in a/cs but if you figure in that the latter will be shooting in close to fal off range mostly (-30-50% dps) and the 2xfaction webs with the subsystem, it might well prove more effective, especially if you refraining from grouping all the guns together.

3. If you wanna fly with shield tank and no webs then definately go with a/cs and the a/c offensive sub. You should be able to get 550 dps from the guns nps and 5 light drones for the frigs...

4. Finally PvE Loki can have an uber uber passive shield tank if you want to throw it as aggro receiver in high end pve situations (like top end plexes, lvl5s, wh stuff etc.)
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#13 - 2013-09-30 13:13:04 UTC
Here is a Sansha variant that might give you some ideas...

[Loki, Loki Sansha L4]

Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Gyrostabilizer II

Pith C-Type Thermic Dissipation Field
Pith C-Type EM Ward Field
Pithum C-Type Medium Shield Booster
Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
Auto Targeting System II
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M
720mm Howitzer Artillery II, Republic Fleet EMP M

Medium Semiconductor Memory Cell I
Medium Projectile Ambit Extension II
Medium Projectile Ambit Extension II

Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Shielding
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Electronics - Tactical Targeting Network
Loki Engineering - Power Core Multiplier

Hobgoblin II x5

This one gives you a range of 17.3+55.8km with high damage ammo, 672/773 DPS with EMP and hobs, and a 570/970 Sansha tank for more than 2 minutes (with a ship of this sig and speed, you need about 300DPS tank or so for an L4). The extra scan res from the TTN and max targets from the offline ATS can also come handy when missioning.
Daniel Plain
Doomheim
#14 - 2013-09-30 13:26:03 UTC
the fit above is the only barely passable mission loki fit. you could add another tracking computer to squeeze out a little more range.

I should buy an Ishtar.
Kitty Bear
Deep Core Mining Inc.
Caldari State
#15 - 2013-09-30 16:25:40 UTC  |  Edited by: Kitty Bear
[Loki, pve]
Loki Propulsion - Fuel Catalyst
Loki Offensive - Projectile Scoping Array
Loki Defensive - Adaptive Augmenter
Loki Engineering - Augmented Capacitor Reservoir
Loki Electronics - Immobility Drivers

6x 425mm AutoCannon II

2x Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
10MN Afterburner II
Tracking Computer II

3x Republic Fleet Gyrostabilizer
Armour [xyz] Hardener II
Armour [xyz] Hardener II
Medium Armour Repairer II


retains your 2 webbing slots, but adds dps with a 6th turret
and there's a drone bay for 2 full flights of Lights

(full T2 mods is about 4% cpu over budget, so faction mods needed somewhere)
rigs are entirely up to you .. CCC's, fall off, tracking, tank or dps are all options

if your after cap stable then you need 2x T2 +1 T1 CCC
otherwise cap life is ~2m with everything running