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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#41 - 2013-09-27 18:50:01 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
That is the day I dream of. When someone in a position of power says "No more, null sec cartels and your acolytes, no more. Your days of wrecking the game for your own gain is over."

Right, and you can just sit here posting and doing nothing, until someone takes care of it for you.

Such a winning philosophy.

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#42 - 2013-09-27 18:50:04 UTC  |  Edited by: Rhivre
Harry Forever wrote:
best part, while they whine and beg for free stuff, I will burn down their stations Lol



How many stations, just as a rough guesstimate, have you destroyed so far?

Edit: On topic, It seems to me people think that null alliances/cartels/donut shops/axis of evil/whatever the phrase is this week do not, and would not, ever have small groups out causing havoc in bubble immune inties.

Fluffy Bunny Pic!

Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#43 - 2013-09-27 18:52:11 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Dinsdale, why are you playing this game? And it is not for trolling reasons, I am genuinely curious about it.

If you are right and there is big conspiracy of "cartels" and CCP against hisec you are just whistleblower that nobody listens and everybody makes fun of and you cannot do anything to prevent it. In fact this is also true if you are wrong, nobody listens, everybody laughs and you are fighting with imaginary enemy.

Either way it is not an environment I would call leisure time especially that you have to pay for it. So why?


Recently we have seen a few people leave CCP that were instrumental in the attacks against high sec. Whether those positions are backfilled with more people of the same ilk is likely, but NOT set in stone. We have also seen a couple people hired from EA that are more far more likely interested in growing the subscription base as opposed to catering to the null sec cartels. (do you know how awful things have got that I consider EA exec's the saviours of Eve?)

If you put those things together, there is a small chance, albeit a tiny one, that if enough people like me continue to expose the underlying reasons for why the game is being destroyed for the majority of players, then maybe, just maybe, in the near future, the right person in power might read a post, look at the subscription rates, and say, "hey, this current model is nuts".

That is the day I dream of. When someone in a position of power says "No more, null sec cartels and your acolytes, no more. Your days of wrecking the game for your own gain is over."

And if that day comes, remote as the chances are, all the aggravation and abuse from dealing with the null sec cartel propaganda teams will be worth it.


This post alone could be the basis of someone's Ph'D level dissertation on mental illness.
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe
#44 - 2013-09-27 18:52:18 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
best part, while they whine and beg for free stuff, I will burn down their stations Lol



How many stations, just as a rough guesstimate, have you destroyed so far?

Edit: On topic, It seems to me people think that null alliances/cartels/donut shops/axis of evil/whatever the phrase is this week do not, and would not, ever have small groups out causing havoc in bubble immune inties.

Oh I wouldn't be surprised if somehow we had roaming gangs on interceptors.

I'm sure someone would try

Triggered by: Wars of Sovless Agression, Bending the Knee, Twisting the Knife, Eating Sov Wheaties, Bombless Bombers, Fizzlesov, Interceptor Fleets, Running Away, GhostTime Vuln, Renters, Bombs, Bubbles ?
Jenn aSide
Worthless Carebears
The Initiative.
#45 - 2013-09-27 18:56:42 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
That is the day I dream of. When someone in a position of power says "No more, null sec cartels and your acolytes, no more. Your days of wrecking the game for your own gain is over."

Right, and you can just sit here posting and doing nothing, until someone takes care of it for you.

Such a winning philosophy.


A link to that philosophy: When the revolution comes, which was imminent in 1968.

2013 and still waiting for that revolution lol.
Rhivre
TarNec
Invisible Exchequer
#46 - 2013-09-27 18:59:07 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
That is the day I dream of. When someone in a position of power says "No more, null sec cartels and your acolytes, no more. Your days of wrecking the game for your own gain is over."

Right, and you can just sit here posting and doing nothing, until someone takes care of it for you.

Such a winning philosophy.


A link to that philosophy: When the revolution comes, which was imminent in 1968.

2013 and still waiting for that revolution lol.


It would have come, if not for THE MAN or in this case Ebil Gewns/CCP/Bad Null Bears

Fluffy Bunny Pic!

Dinsdale Pirannha
Pirannha Corp
#47 - 2013-09-27 19:08:21 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
That is the day I dream of. When someone in a position of power says "No more, null sec cartels and your acolytes, no more. Your days of wrecking the game for your own gain is over."

Right, and you can just sit here posting and doing nothing, until someone takes care of it for you.

Such a winning philosophy.


Not much I can do, except what I am doing now.
You guys have won Eve, or at least null sec.
That was made clear when test folded.
So now you are coming after the next frontier harder than you have ever before: high sec.

So don't suggest I draw together an army of high sec zealots based around my cult of personality and my messiah complex and smash the evil goons. Not going to happen. You guys have ensured under current game and meta-game mechanics that is impossible. And as a wise man once said "man's got to know his limitations".

I am hoping for a change in the underlying business conditions at CCP, and that is the only thing that can stop your group.
Winchester Steele
#48 - 2013-09-27 19:09:35 UTC
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Dinsdale, why are you playing this game? And it is not for trolling reasons, I am genuinely curious about it.

If you are right and there is big conspiracy of "cartels" and CCP against hisec you are just whistleblower that nobody listens and everybody makes fun of and you cannot do anything to prevent it. In fact this is also true if you are wrong, nobody listens, everybody laughs and you are fighting with imaginary enemy.

Either way it is not an environment I would call leisure time especially that you have to pay for it. So why?


Recently we have seen a few people leave CCP that were instrumental in the attacks against high sec. Whether those positions are backfilled with more people of the same ilk is likely, but NOT set in stone. We have also seen a couple people hired from EA that are more far more likely interested in growing the subscription base as opposed to catering to the null sec cartels. (do you know how awful things have got that I consider EA exec's the saviours of Eve?)

If you put those things together, there is a small chance, albeit a tiny one, that if enough people like me continue to expose the underlying reasons for why the game is being destroyed for the majority of players, then maybe, just maybe, in the near future, the right person in power might read a post, look at the subscription rates, and say, "hey, this current model is nuts".

That is the day I dream of. When someone in a position of power says "No more, null sec cartels and your acolytes, no more. Your days of wrecking the game for your own gain is over."

And if that day comes, remote as the chances are, all the aggravation and abuse from dealing with the null sec cartel propaganda teams will be worth it.



Holy **** guy. Is this what it looks like when someone loses all contact with reality? You need to shut the PC down and go get some fresh air.


But hey, what do I know. I voted for Harper the last 2 elections in a row ( and the next one too ). Unless Mittens wants the job.

Mittens for PM 2015!

...

Noriko Satomi
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#49 - 2013-09-27 19:09:42 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
Edit: On topic, It seems to me people think that null alliances/cartels/donut shops/axis of evil/whatever the phrase is this week do not, and would not, ever have small groups out causing havoc in bubble immune inties.


There are those of us who think the coalitions will have more small groups out causing havoc. And there are those of us who think this will be good for the game.
Solstice Project's Alt
Doomheim
#50 - 2013-09-27 19:12:59 UTC
As if that changed anything.

It's still the same people who refuse to play.

Buy Solstice Project for PLEX4GOOD ! https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=301266 (this alt-character will get deleted once the sale is done, on 6th of december)
BoBoZoBo
MGroup9
#51 - 2013-09-27 19:16:19 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
Guerilla-style Warfare Support - Tactics to chip away at the behemoths have surfaced, allowing small fleets of mercenaries, saboteurs and troublemakers to become cause for concern for even the most reinforced of alliance strongholds.

this is too good to be true, we need bombs to deploy on their station! blasting those alliances to heaven!

nullsec theme park will burn! solo pilots will lead the new millenium!... grillparty starting November 19!

provide us some serious stuff here to shakeup those nullsec teddybears!



Will not really matter - all successful fighting forces need superb funding and excellent organization to work.
Two tools CCP cannot hand out.

Primary Test Subject • SmackTalker Elite
Lugia3
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#52 - 2013-09-27 19:23:10 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
best part, while they whine and beg for free stuff, I will burn down their stations Lol


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So now we went from shooting cyno frigs to single-handedly burning down nullsec stations?

"CCP Dolan is full of shit." - CCP Bettik
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#53 - 2013-09-27 19:27:37 UTC
flakeys wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
best part, while they whine and beg for free stuff, I will burn down their stations Lol



Last time you said that you killed a bunch of cyno ships and uhm ... well actually just a few cyno ships.




you got tomatose on your eyes, I shotdown over a billion of haulers

cynokilling was just training, now I'm an expert on sneaking up to their station because of that and next time I kill a cyno a leave a nice present behind... boom!

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#54 - 2013-09-27 19:31:58 UTC
Rhivre wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
best part, while they whine and beg for free stuff, I will burn down their stations Lol



How many stations, just as a rough guesstimate, have you destroyed so far?

Edit: On topic, It seems to me people think that null alliances/cartels/donut shops/axis of evil/whatever the phrase is this week do not, and would not, ever have small groups out causing havoc in bubble immune inties.


no station yet, douche, because they are invunerable

thats why we need to wait until november

got it?

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#55 - 2013-09-27 19:37:04 UTC
Alavaria Fera wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
That is the day I dream of. When someone in a position of power says "No more, null sec cartels and your acolytes, no more. Your days of wrecking the game for your own gain is over."

Right, and you can just sit here posting and doing nothing, until someone takes care of it for you.

Such a winning philosophy.


don't you get it, we don't want to be alliance puppets like you

that was the only way to fight you guys, become like you

until now, people in charge are convinced already that you all need to die, thats why we get our guerilla tools

Ceasar thumb down for goonswarm

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#56 - 2013-09-27 19:39:13 UTC
Winchester Steele wrote:
Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:
Schmata Bastanold wrote:
Dinsdale, why are you playing this game? And it is not for trolling reasons, I am genuinely curious about it.

If you are right and there is big conspiracy of "cartels" and CCP against hisec you are just whistleblower that nobody listens and everybody makes fun of and you cannot do anything to prevent it. In fact this is also true if you are wrong, nobody listens, everybody laughs and you are fighting with imaginary enemy.

Either way it is not an environment I would call leisure time especially that you have to pay for it. So why?


Recently we have seen a few people leave CCP that were instrumental in the attacks against high sec. Whether those positions are backfilled with more people of the same ilk is likely, but NOT set in stone. We have also seen a couple people hired from EA that are more far more likely interested in growing the subscription base as opposed to catering to the null sec cartels. (do you know how awful things have got that I consider EA exec's the saviours of Eve?)

If you put those things together, there is a small chance, albeit a tiny one, that if enough people like me continue to expose the underlying reasons for why the game is being destroyed for the majority of players, then maybe, just maybe, in the near future, the right person in power might read a post, look at the subscription rates, and say, "hey, this current model is nuts".

That is the day I dream of. When someone in a position of power says "No more, null sec cartels and your acolytes, no more. Your days of wrecking the game for your own gain is over."

And if that day comes, remote as the chances are, all the aggravation and abuse from dealing with the null sec cartel propaganda teams will be worth it.



Holy **** guy. Is this what it looks like when someone loses all contact with reality? You need to shut the PC down and go get some fresh air.


But hey, what do I know. I voted for Harper the last 2 elections in a row ( and the next one too ). Unless Mittens wants the job.

Mittens for PM 2015!


he's absolutly right, you guys are just brainwashed, thats why we need to blast you guys, we bring freedome with bombs to assure you wake up

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#57 - 2013-09-27 19:41:16 UTC
Solstice Project's Alt wrote:
As if that changed anything.

It's still the same people who refuse to play.


I don't mind if the alliances don't play, as long as i can blowup their stuff out there, I trash their houses until they catch fire in there

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#58 - 2013-09-27 19:42:51 UTC
BoBoZoBo wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
Guerilla-style Warfare Support - Tactics to chip away at the behemoths have surfaced, allowing small fleets of mercenaries, saboteurs and troublemakers to become cause for concern for even the most reinforced of alliance strongholds.

this is too good to be true, we need bombs to deploy on their station! blasting those alliances to heaven!

nullsec theme park will burn! solo pilots will lead the new millenium!... grillparty starting November 19!

provide us some serious stuff here to shakeup those nullsec teddybears!



Will not really matter - all successful fighting forces need superb funding and excellent organization to work.
Two tools CCP cannot hand out.


don't you get it, gurillas do not have funds they don't need funds, they got some basic tools and with those they make extreme damage, I just need a screwdriver to sabotage one of their titans

our weapon is brainpower

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#59 - 2013-09-27 19:45:26 UTC
Lugia3 wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
best part, while they whine and beg for free stuff, I will burn down their stations Lol


╔╗╔═╦╗
║╚╣║║╚╗
╚═╩═╩═╝

So now we went from shooting cyno frigs to single-handedly burning down nullsec stations?


yes, guerilla warfare gets support, I already did a billion of damage, with more tools I gonna blast them to heaven, If they don't get me, they will just repair their stuff, no more titans they build

Harry Forever vs. Goonswarm
Schmata Bastanold
In Boobiez We Trust
#60 - 2013-09-27 19:51:27 UTC
Dinsdale, thanks for response although I can't say I understand your drive to save pixel world from domination of cartels. This is just a game and it really is insignificant in one's life. Sure it takes time and/or money - so does any other hobby - but in the end it is somebody's business that provides you with entertainment. And you can drop the very second you don't get what you want from it. So I guess you get exactly what you want.

And for Harry I have another question: WTF are those bombs you keep talking about? Did I miss second part of stream or sth?

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