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A review of player giveaways with CCP and third party sites

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KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#181 - 2013-09-26 21:10:09 UTC  |  Edited by: KIller Wabbit
CCP Navigator wrote:
Cursan Voran wrote:
Also, as someone who does not use somer blink, how do I get a chance at these giveaways?


You can register and play a free promo blink which happen often and get an entry.


oh, you're even going to do their marketing for them?
Khanh'rhh
Sparkle Motion.
#182 - 2013-09-26 21:11:07 UTC
Ahhh CCP, ever the proponents of changing the what and claiming to have changed the how.

You haven't addressed the fact you're still giving potentially hundreds of billions of unique ships to a player group because you are playing favourites.

Nor will you, of course, but you're still going to hear about it anyway.

"Do not touch anything unnecessarily. Beware of pretty girls in dance halls and parks who may be spies, as well as bicycles, revolvers, uniforms, arms, dead horses, and men lying on roads -- they are not there accidentally." -Soviet infantry manual,

Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858
Heroes and Villains.
#183 - 2013-09-26 21:12:50 UTC  |  Edited by: Boom Boom Longtime
Confirming my Somer Blink account got banned when i never bothered to read the rules of a 3rd party website not affiliated with CCP and tried to promo blink with 2 accounts not knowing this was not permitted

I pay my subscription to CCP just like everybody else - Why am I therefore being marginalised and excluded from being able to participate in this "community event" facilitated by CCP ?

The underlying principles here are exactly the same as why CCP devs decided to withdraw from several player run channels recently to create their own, given that player moderation / actions were potentially preventing all players from having free and unilateral access to CCP related content.

My Somer Account is blocked - I pay my eve subscription, yet I cannot take part in this event despite me abiding by and adhering to the terms and conditions as layed out by the EULA..

Unless everybody has access to participate in this lottery, then by its own actions, choices and decisions CCP are marginalising and excluding members of their own community since clearly there will be players who cannot take part in this even if they wanted to.

Utterly dreadful decision making, clear favouritism, and by default, not fair to the "whole" community.

10/10.

Concord Approved Trader

Destoya
Habitual Euthanasia
Pandemic Legion
#184 - 2013-09-26 21:17:30 UTC
Quote:
These new cruisers will be unique assets that will be owned only by these players. We will not give these out again.


Just stick to that statement next time and you will have a whole lot less problems. Though I would stress that you should have a serious look at that policy of giving out immensely valuable items to third parties, no matter their reputation, before doing something like this again. When the prizes have this level of value, CCP events are fine, CCP sponsored events run by a group of players raises a whole lot of red flags.
Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
#185 - 2013-09-26 21:19:08 UTC
Hang on a second. If all I need to do to win EVE is to make a website that earns me money and get even more money from CCP I need to dig into HTML a bit.

Or remove my credit card information from account services.

Guess what's faster.
Abernie
Thoroughly Incompetent
#186 - 2013-09-26 21:21:23 UTC
Janine Frost wrote:
Quote:

"All you scammers and legitimate businessmen out there, take heed. If you want to succeed beyond your wildest dreams, make sure you get audited by CCP and have their official seal of approval planted on your business and/or scam. It's a brand new day in the world of EVE."


Fellow Eve players!

Allow me to share the above quote with you, taken from an article, which can be found here:

http://www.minerbumping.com/2013/09/ccp-audits-somer-blink-gives-them-free.html

I urge you to read it in its entirety, it is well worth it.

Pointing them to the article can also serve as an easy way of making your friends and anyone else you deem interested aware of the situation.

Yours faithfully,

Janine Frost
NEW ORDER DEATH DEALERS/CODE.

Good stuff. Brings up pretty much all the issues.
Too bad it's way too long for the average player to read. What?
Weaselior
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#187 - 2013-09-26 21:21:30 UTC
Pytria Le'Danness wrote:
Hang on a second. If all I need to do to win EVE is to make a website that earns me money and get even more money from CCP I need to dig into HTML a bit.

Or remove my credit card information from account services.

Guess what's faster.

the website because I believe it's literally impossible to remove your cc info from ccp's services

Head of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal Pubbie Management and Exploitation Division.

Maximilian Akora
It's just business.
#188 - 2013-09-26 21:22:41 UTC  |  Edited by: Maximilian Akora
The simple fact that none of the ones in charge within CCP realised what a massive "oops" those prizes were in terms of EVE history and the whole concept of scarcity scares me, for various reasons. I thought Somer was indirectly used to launder RMT, I guess that's ok too then right?
Igor Nappi
Doomheim
#189 - 2013-09-26 21:24:39 UTC
Still FUBAR.

Furthermore, I think that links must be removed from the game.

Scatim Helicon
State War Academy
Caldari State
#190 - 2013-09-26 21:26:45 UTC
TheGunslinger42 wrote:
I find it telling that the body of player representatives that was formed as a result of a dev spawning items for a particular player organisation was not consulted on the decision to have devs spawn items for a particular player organisation

Empty quoting this for ever and ever and ever.

Every time you post a WiS thread, Hilmar strangles a kitten.

KIller Wabbit
MEME Thoughts
#191 - 2013-09-26 21:27:34 UTC
So I don't duplicate effort - has anyone reported to CCP IA yet?
sally Deninard
mss industry
#192 - 2013-09-26 21:28:39 UTC
Boom Boom Longtime wrote:
Confirming my Somer Blink account got banned when i never bothered to read the rules of a 3rd party website not affiliated with CCP and tried to promo blink with 2 accounts not knowing this was not permitted

I pay my subscription to CCP just like everybody else - Why am I therefore being marginalised and excluded from being able to participate in this "community event" facilitated by CCP ?

The underlying principles here are exactly the same as why CCP devs decided to withdraw from several player run channels recently to create their own, given that player moderation / actions were potentially preventing all players from having free and unilateral access to CCP related content.

My Somer Account is blocked - I pay my eve subscription, yet I cannot take part in this event despite me abiding by and adhering to the terms and conditions as layed out by the EULA..

Unless everybody has access to participate in this lottery, then by its own actions, choices and decisions CCP are marginalising and excluding members of their own community since clearly there will be players who cannot take part in this even if they wanted to.

Utterly dreadful decision making, clear favouritism, and by default, not fair to the "whole" community.

10/10.


I have to say that this has to be a problem that many have overlooked. My wife is an avid carebear but cannot have a somer blink account because of the one account per ip thing they have going on (true story no troll)
She is unable to blink on my account as that would be against the EULA , therefore my wife cannot play SOMER BLINK and cannot enter this competition.
Surely this is discriminating against my wife and she should be given the opportunity to win a once in a lifetime ccp prize.
Can someone from CCP please advise as to how she can enter into this competition .
Amhra Rho
Accujac Elimination
#193 - 2013-09-26 21:28:49 UTC
Consider asking SOMER Blink to purchase these ships, and this is why.

You've just about followed my proposed Step 1 (above) to the letter - Bravo!

There's real reasons why your Eve character doesn't do /dance.

Hra Neuvosto
Party Cat Enterprises
#194 - 2013-09-26 21:29:11 UTC
I really hope they simply "steal" the ships or refuse them.
Maximus Andendare
Stimulus
Rote Kapelle
#195 - 2013-09-26 21:29:44 UTC
-1, -1, -1 CCP. Terrible, terrible, terrible decision making here. In fact, I don't see how you could confuse what the issues were.

Addressing the Gold Magnate/GVexor? Great! Nobody cares if you create new custom ships for promotions. The problem is that you're essentially giving SOMER Blink hundreds of billions in profit by having them be the outlet. You want to drum up support for Eve? Create good press? Fine. I don't think anyone would object to that. But CCP needs to be the one doing it. Otherwise, how can you possibly tell us with a straight face that you're totally fine with funneling hundreds of billions of isk into a player-run corporation?

I mean, Goons have a point. Red/Black/Blue Frog do too. SOMER isn't creating content for your game. They don't do ANYTHING to the game. It's all done via third party website, and only to make SOMER Blink RICH. So WTF CCP?

But to GSF, TEST, RFF, Push, Angel Project, Eve University, Brave Newbies, RvB, etc.--you know, the REAL creators of content and services in the game--I'm sorry but you guys are all missing the point. The point simply is that SOMER Blink drives so many GTC sales, which in turn equals $$ for CCP. Of course CCP is going to do whatever they have to do drive more traffic to SOMER Blink's website, get more people blinking and then "oh hey let me buy a GTC while I'm here. I get free Blink credit!!"

This is truly bad decision, CCP. You offend your player base with your blatant disregard for our intellect, and you overtly and actively show favoritism to a third party website that is in the game WITH THE SOLE INTEREST OF MAKING THEIR BANK ACCOUNT LARGER.

If you really wanted to have a goodwill lottery, it's a simple matter of consulting your database for active subs and drawing a name from there. Yes, it's unbalanced as many people have various alts, but at least I know in that case there won't be someone with hundreds or thousands of entries to the average players few. SOMER Blink exists at the fringe, preying off unsuspecting gamblers or serving as a plaything for the richest of rich elite. The fact that you couldn't see this, AND you (intentionally) left the CSM out of the picture shows that you have once again lost your way. You have learned NOTHING from Incarna.

It is a most troubling time to be a fan of CCP, since you have mercilessly destroyed the trust and confidence that you have gained from our support. I am disturbed by today's events, and I find myself wondering if this is a precedent for how CCP's favoritism will be spun in future dealings.

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Pytria Le'Danness
Placid Reborn
#196 - 2013-09-26 21:33:35 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Pytria Le'Danness wrote:
Hang on a second. If all I need to do to win EVE is to make a website that earns me money and get even more money from CCP I need to dig into HTML a bit.

Or remove my credit card information from account services.

Guess what's faster.

the website because I believe it's literally impossible to remove your cc info from ccp's services


Ok, I could only disallowed them access to my CC. They still have the data and all. But I can easily challenge further payments. The only problem is that the last payment just happened a few days ago.

Hmm. I probably could challenge that as well.
Lulu McMullin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#197 - 2013-09-26 21:33:54 UTC
Weaselior wrote:
Pytria Le'Danness wrote:
Hang on a second. If all I need to do to win EVE is to make a website that earns me money and get even more money from CCP I need to dig into HTML a bit.

Or remove my credit card information from account services.

Guess what's faster.

the website because I believe it's literally impossible to remove your cc info from ccp's services


Only takes a minute to stop reoccurring charges.

I don't think I've ever agreed with Goons & associates more than what I've seen in this thread though. This 'sponsorship' is nothing but favouritism.

I'd quote and respond to CCP Navigator's reply regarding signing up for blinks, but I'd be permabanned for the only response I have to that. I will take a temp ban though, if it's warranted. "Clueless ******"
Alt Two
Caldari Capital Construction Inc.
#198 - 2013-09-26 21:35:59 UTC
Maximus Andendare wrote:
But to GSF, TEST, RFF, Push, Angel Project, Eve University, Brave Newbies, RvB, etc.--you know, the REAL creators of content and services in the game--I'm sorry but you guys are all missing the point. The point simply is that SOMER Blink drives so many GTC sales, which in turn equals $$ for CCP. Of course CCP is going to do whatever they have to do drive more traffic to SOMER Blink's website, get more people blinking and then "oh hey let me buy a GTC while I'm here. I get free Blink credit!!"

This guy gets it. To CCP it's all about the money.
The only way to make your voices heard is to vote with your wallet. Paste a link to this thread as the reason for your account cancellation.
Nanatoa
#199 - 2013-09-26 21:41:20 UTC
Alt Two wrote:
Maximus Andendare wrote:
But to GSF, TEST, RFF, Push, Angel Project, Eve University, Brave Newbies, RvB, etc.--you know, the REAL creators of content and services in the game--I'm sorry but you guys are all missing the point. The point simply is that SOMER Blink drives so many GTC sales, which in turn equals $$ for CCP. Of course CCP is going to do whatever they have to do drive more traffic to SOMER Blink's website, get more people blinking and then "oh hey let me buy a GTC while I'm here. I get free Blink credit!!"

This guy gets it. To CCP it's all about the money.
The only way to make your voices heard is to vote with your wallet. Paste a link to this thread as the reason for your account cancellation.

I guess this is "one of the moments where we [CCP] look at what our players do and less of what they say."

"Stay the course, we have done this many times before." - (CCP) Hilmar, June 2011

Lulu McMullin
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#200 - 2013-09-26 21:42:46 UTC
Alt Two wrote:
Maximus Andendare wrote:
But to GSF, TEST, RFF, Push, Angel Project, Eve University, Brave Newbies, RvB, etc.--you know, the REAL creators of content and services in the game--I'm sorry but you guys are all missing the point. The point simply is that SOMER Blink drives so many GTC sales, which in turn equals $$ for CCP. Of course CCP is going to do whatever they have to do drive more traffic to SOMER Blink's website, get more people blinking and then "oh hey let me buy a GTC while I'm here. I get free Blink credit!!"

This guy gets it. To CCP it's all about the money.
The only way to make your voices heard is to vote with your wallet. Paste a link to this thread as the reason for your account cancellation.



Done, x3