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I have been thinking, i know that's bad thing and its all a horrible idea because CHANGE BAD UGG

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Calypso Warsmith
Strata Dynamics
Power Absolute Inc.
#1 - 2013-09-21 02:55:57 UTC
I have been thinking, i know that's a bad thing and its all a horrible idea because CHANGE BAD UGG UGG.
I post this knowing it will catch the wrath of many a mouth frothing Null sec forum warrior.
We all know ANY change that inconveniences ANY ONE playing EvE "IS THE WORSE CHANGE IN THE HISTORY OF EvE!"


First off, i started this train of thought while i was talking with some friends about defending a freighter convoy in olden days.


Lets start this off with a story, it was many a year ago on a cold and dark night in the wee hours nearing EvE's down time on my 56k connection. It started off as your run of the mill freighter run, escort it from are systems in null to highsec, indeed you whippersnappers who don't know you good you have it with your jump drives, jump bridges and titan bridges. But back to the story, all was well for the first 18 jumps and in to low sec we soon where. It was at that point are normal night would soon turn in to a week and one of are largest loss's as a corp at that time "indeed not this current corp or faceless alt" all was well for many jumps ahead and behind us for sadly it was not to last for a dreaded neutral logged in, in are current system! BLAST we where discovered. One dead frigate later and much joking to be had and a job well done defending the fighter we where informed of a gang headed are way of 13 cruisers belonging to the same corp the frigate had. So as every one will say from that time we did the only thing we could do we quickly docked and logged are freighter for safety, and prepared for fighting. Needlessly to say we where murdered quite thoroughly, but are freighter lived and we would continue or the next day or so we thought. To are horror there was members of that very corp in system all hours of the day and night, it soon became a stand off and one of my fondest weeks in eve.

They where quite ruthless in there station camping, we soon worked out a plan to move the fighter during there least active time and to alarm clock for it as this was most of are corps wealth at the time. Soon are plan was set into motion but are hopes where dashed in less than 2 jumps and we where once more forced to dock are freighter for fear of losing it to this band of pirates. So it went for the next week fight for only few jumps a day to make it to high sec. It was one of my most memorable time's in eve and one i recount as much as i can for it is a long dead art of moving freighters in the lawless parts of space.



It was in the telling of this story a few weeks ago that i started to think Why could we not have this back but without the pain of 80+ jumps in a freighter and countless sleepless nights defending it.
For one should never forget the reason JFs where added to EVE!

And that's when i found the solution with out returning us to the dark times.


for any of this to work freighters and JF HP need's to be greatly buffed!!
(passably a immobile siege mode, to allow defenders time to respond or to keep the freighters from just being alpha off the field?)!!

freighters/JF can no longer be titan bridged.

Cyno's can no longer be lit within docking range of a station. !!!! ( WHY WAS THIS NOT DONE AT THE START) !!!!


Before you post.

Don't you even think about BUT GANKING!! me. If you could kill them in high sec by ganking you can now just as easily kill them in lowsec/null sec!

If your a Guy that runs JF logistics for any corp, **** off with your bitchen, i run them as well and KNOW how easy it is to move a JF with a well placed cyno chain.

If the best you can come up with is "You are just bad at eve LOOK at all the KM's of dead freighters, Why should we make it easier for you to Kill freighters!" Its now about killing fighters, its about the fight's you would get from it.


Now? If you think this an HORRIBLE idea, use your big words and explain why having more targets, conflict drivers, and fight's between space ships is a bad idea.
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#2 - 2013-09-21 03:01:58 UTC
Horrible idea.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#3 - 2013-09-21 03:05:16 UTC
Varius Xeral wrote:
Horrible idea.


Once we get ToS-gate finished, we need to rally for a downvote button for these forums.

Would it turn GD into a circlejerk? Maybe. IMO, it would be worth it to get rid of **** like this.

Also, this belongs in F&I, where dumb ideas go to die.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Literally Space Moses
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2013-09-21 05:28:09 UTC
The fact that you knew it was a terrible idea and tried to justify it with "oh if you say my idea is bad you're wrong" tells me that your idea is ****.

#T2013

Literally Space Moses
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#5 - 2013-09-21 05:29:14 UTC
After having read your idea, I can confirm it was ****.

#T2013

John Bosch
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-09-21 05:44:34 UTC
KuroVolt
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#7 - 2013-09-21 05:47:33 UTC
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Varius Xeral wrote:
Horrible idea.


Once we get ToS-gate finished, we need to rally for a downvote button for these forums.

Would it turn GD into a circlejerk? Maybe. IMO, it would be worth it to get rid of **** like this.

Also, this belongs in F&I, where dumb ideas go to die.


Actually, just add a postcount.

Then all you need to do is look at postcount to like ratio.

If someone has 1000 posts and 3 likes, he/she is probably a shitposter.

This avoids the political downvoting that would occur with a dislike button.

[I didnt even read the OP, Im sure its terrible]

BoBwins Law: As a discussion/war between two large nullsec entities grows longer, the probability of one comparing the other to BoB aproaches near certainty.

Kaarous Aldurald
Black Hydra Consortium.
#8 - 2013-09-21 05:51:27 UTC
KuroVolt wrote:
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Varius Xeral wrote:
Horrible idea.


Once we get ToS-gate finished, we need to rally for a downvote button for these forums.

Would it turn GD into a circlejerk? Maybe. IMO, it would be worth it to get rid of **** like this.

Also, this belongs in F&I, where dumb ideas go to die.


Actually, just add a postcount.

Then all you need to do is look at postcount to like ratio.

If someone has 1000 posts and 3 likes, he/she is probably a shitposter.

This avoids the political downvoting that would occur with a dislike button.

[I didnt even read the OP, Im sure its terrible]


Hmm, good idea.

Although, you must admit, the whole "political downvoting" thing has an advantage, in that stuff can get downvoted into oblivion and not even show up any longer. Also makes the whole "bumping" thing easier to enforce.

Both have their merits, though. Have a like.

"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."

One of ours, ten of theirs.

Best Meltdown Ever.

Mr Pragmatic
#9 - 2013-09-21 09:49:05 UTC
Damn I need a tldr....

Super cali hella yolo swaga dopeness.  -Yoloswaggins, in the fellowship of the bling.

Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#10 - 2013-09-21 10:09:38 UTC  |  Edited by: Johan Civire
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Varius Xeral wrote:
Horrible idea.


Once we get ToS-gate finished, we need to rally for a downvote button for these forums.

Would it turn GD into a circlejerk? Maybe. IMO, it would be worth it to get rid of **** like this.

Also, this belongs in F&I, where dumb ideas go to die.


if it falls below the let me say -50 then the forum threat is close. If you downvote some one in your threat like also -20 the user can not post anymore in your threat this stops the trolling kids for ignoring and hating answers.

And I forgot you can not answer on anytopic if you are in a npc corps unless you are playing more than 1 year in that npc corps. This will close all troll alts for some time. But you can answer if you are new in the newbie channel.
Doc Severide
Doomheim
#11 - 2013-09-21 12:22:57 UTC
"I have been thinking" is the telltale sign to stop reading immediately...

Everyone is always repeating the mantra "Don't Trust Anyone" ad nauseum... If I can't trust the guys I play with, why bother playing with them at all? Fly Solo...

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#12 - 2013-09-21 12:31:43 UTC
Mr Pragmatic wrote:
Damn I need a tldr....

He doesn't want JFs (or freighters) to bypass his camps.