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Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#401 - 2013-09-19 15:42:19 UTC
Gankers lack spacehonoure.

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#402 - 2013-09-19 15:47:29 UTC
MeestaPenni wrote:
Gankers are no more than school yard bullies.
[citation needed]
So you still have no argument and no evidence to support your position, since you have to rely on fallacies to make your not-case.
Renault T'Bonin
Doomheim
#403 - 2013-09-19 15:58:32 UTC
Tippia wrote:
MeestaPenni wrote:
Gankers are no more than school yard bullies.
[citation needed]
So you still have no argument and no evidence to support your position, since you have to rely on fallacies to make your not-case.


Does repeating that over and over make you feel good, or better?

The rest of us have moved on.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#404 - 2013-09-19 16:03:03 UTC
Renault T'Bonin wrote:
Does repeating that over and over make you feel good, or better?
It makes me sad that I have to repeat it since you keep making these nonsensical and outlandish claims.

Quote:
The rest of us have moved on.
No, you really haven't. That's the sad part.
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
#405 - 2013-09-19 16:17:53 UTC
Tippia wrote:
MeestaPenni wrote:
Gankers are no more than school yard bullies.
[citation needed]
So you still have no argument and no evidence to support your position, since you have to rely on fallacies to make your not-case.


I have a valid, giant argument.

"Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively to impose domination over others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power." (Ask and you shall receive)

Cited


Gankers are bullies with exactly the same motivations and influences as the school yard bully picking on perceived weaknesses.

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.
Renault T'Bonin
Doomheim
#406 - 2013-09-19 16:23:13 UTC
MeestaPenni wrote:
Tippia wrote:
MeestaPenni wrote:
Gankers are no more than school yard bullies.
[citation needed]
So you still have no argument and no evidence to support your position, since you have to rely on fallacies to make your not-case.


I have a valid, giant argument.

"Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively to impose domination over others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power." (Ask and you shall receive)

Cited


Gankers are bullies with exactly the same motivations and influences as the school yard bully picking on perceived weaknesses.


She doesn't care about your argument... although she may try to refute it. Err it might... who knows right?

Best to move along and let the incompetent EVE players have there little group think.
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
#407 - 2013-09-19 16:26:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Tippia
MeestaPenni wrote:
I have a valid, giant argument.

"Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively to impose domination over others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power." (Ask and you shall receive)

Cited
So apparently, miners are bullies too. After all, they habitually use threats and coercion to try to impose domination over others, and are of the perception that they are in an imbalanced position of strength in terms of social power. Fancy that.

Quote:
Gankers are bullies with exactly the same motivations and influences as the school yard bully picking on perceived weaknesses.
[citation needed]

Renault T'Bonin wrote:
Best to move along and let the incompetent EVE players have there little group think.
No. I'd rather prefer to cure their incompetence by educating them on the tools and rules they have at their disposal.
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
#408 - 2013-09-19 16:27:43 UTC
Renault T'Bonin wrote:

She doesn't care about your argument...


Despite the tone and style of prose....that is not a "she".

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.
MeestaPenni
Mercantile and Stuff
#409 - 2013-09-19 16:29:13 UTC
Tippia wrote:
MeestaPenni wrote:
I have a valid, giant argument.

"Bullying is the use of force, threat, or coercion to abuse, intimidate, or aggressively to impose domination over others. The behavior is often repeated and habitual. One essential prerequisite is the perception, by the bully or by others, of an imbalance of social or physical power." (Ask and you shall receive)

Cited
So apparently, miners are bullies too. After all, they habitually use threats and coercion to try to impose domination over others, and are of the perception that they are in an imbalanced position of strength in terms of social power. Fancy that.

Quote:
Gankers are bullies with exactly the same motivations and influences as the school yard bully picking on perceived weaknesses.
[citation needed]


The comedy just keeps flowing in this thread.

I am not Prencleeve Grothsmore.
Renault T'Bonin
Doomheim
#410 - 2013-09-19 16:30:37 UTC
MeestaPenni wrote:
Renault T'Bonin wrote:

She doesn't care about your argument...


Despite the tone and style of prose....that is not a "she".


I'm from Chicago... you never know.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#411 - 2013-09-19 16:32:16 UTC
So i've learned that gankers are incompetent sociopaths that fail at EvE in every way. Just wondering what that makes the miners who die at the hands of these Eve failures? I've seen in this thread and others, gankers referred to school yard bullies which is an insult to miners. Unlike in real life, in a video game (except pay-to-win which Eve is not), everyone is given the same tools to make their way. You can choose what ships you fly, how you equip them, and where you fly them. Eve is fundamentally a competitive game. You must compete with other players for whatever resources you are after. You'll win some and you will loose some.

If gankers are school yard bullies and incompetants, then that portrays the miners are weaklings and even more incompetant. I'lll not accept that. We're all demigods of the same galaxy. Just last night 3 of us launched on a hulk flying 1 t2 cat and 2 t1 cats. Killed dozens of Hulks with far less dps before. Landed on target, locked him up and got to blasting. Then a flight of shield maint drones from the hulk came out. Another flight from the Orca nearby. We never even got to his armor. It was fantastic. We offered 'gf's in local and watched our cats explode while the hulk didn't miss a cycle. The guy was at the keyboard, knew we were coming, and had a plan to beat us. That guy was neither weak nor incompetant.

You can adapt to the losses, or blame the other guy.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Varius Xeral
Doomheim
#412 - 2013-09-19 16:43:27 UTC
but mah yield, bro!

Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal
Renault T'Bonin
Doomheim
#413 - 2013-09-19 16:46:36 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
So i've learned that gankers are incompetent sociopaths that fail at EvE in every way. Just wondering what that makes the miners who die at the hands of these Eve failures? I've seen in this thread and others, gankers referred to school yard bullies which is an insult to miners. Unlike in real life, in a video game (except pay-to-win which Eve is not), everyone is given the same tools to make their way. You can choose what ships you fly, how you equip them, and where you fly them. Eve is fundamentally a competitive game. You must compete with other players for whatever resources you are after. You'll win some and you will loose some.

If gankers are school yard bullies and incompetants, then that portrays the miners are weaklings and even more incompetant. I'lll not accept that. We're all demigods of the same galaxy. Just last night 3 of us launched on a hulk flying 1 t2 cat and 2 t1 cats. Killed dozens of Hulks with far less dps before. Landed on target, locked him up and got to blasting. Then a flight of shield maint drones from the hulk came out. Another flight from the Orca nearby. We never even got to his armor. It was fantastic. We offered 'gf's in local and watched our cats explode while the hulk didn't miss a cycle. The guy was at the keyboard, knew we were coming, and had a plan to beat us. That guy was neither weak nor incompetant.

You can adapt to the losses, or blame the other guy.


More ganker lies.

You cannot use shield maintenance drones on yourself.

So ... this didn't happen? There was only one flight of drones?

I love it when people make up stories... please continue.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#414 - 2013-09-19 16:56:41 UTC
Renault T'Bonin wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
So i've learned that gankers are incompetent sociopaths that fail at EvE in every way. Just wondering what that makes the miners who die at the hands of these Eve failures? I've seen in this thread and others, gankers referred to school yard bullies which is an insult to miners. Unlike in real life, in a video game (except pay-to-win which Eve is not), everyone is given the same tools to make their way. You can choose what ships you fly, how you equip them, and where you fly them. Eve is fundamentally a competitive game. You must compete with other players for whatever resources you are after. You'll win some and you will loose some.

If gankers are school yard bullies and incompetants, then that portrays the miners are weaklings and even more incompetant. I'lll not accept that. We're all demigods of the same galaxy. Just last night 3 of us launched on a hulk flying 1 t2 cat and 2 t1 cats. Killed dozens of Hulks with far less dps before. Landed on target, locked him up and got to blasting. Then a flight of shield maint drones from the hulk came out. Another flight from the Orca nearby. We never even got to his armor. It was fantastic. We offered 'gf's in local and watched our cats explode while the hulk didn't miss a cycle. The guy was at the keyboard, knew we were coming, and had a plan to beat us. That guy was neither weak nor incompetant.

You can adapt to the losses, or blame the other guy.


More ganker lies.

You cannot use shield maintenance drones on yourself.

So ... this didn't happen? There was only one flight of drones?

I love it when people make up stories... please continue.


Looked like 2 to me. Maybe it was only one. I only had 20secs to find out before it all ended hilariously.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Renault T'Bonin
Doomheim
#415 - 2013-09-19 16:59:23 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
Renault T'Bonin wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
So i've learned that gankers are incompetent sociopaths that fail at EvE in every way. Just wondering what that makes the miners who die at the hands of these Eve failures? I've seen in this thread and others, gankers referred to school yard bullies which is an insult to miners. Unlike in real life, in a video game (except pay-to-win which Eve is not), everyone is given the same tools to make their way. You can choose what ships you fly, how you equip them, and where you fly them. Eve is fundamentally a competitive game. You must compete with other players for whatever resources you are after. You'll win some and you will loose some.

If gankers are school yard bullies and incompetants, then that portrays the miners are weaklings and even more incompetant. I'lll not accept that. We're all demigods of the same galaxy. Just last night 3 of us launched on a hulk flying 1 t2 cat and 2 t1 cats. Killed dozens of Hulks with far less dps before. Landed on target, locked him up and got to blasting. Then a flight of shield maint drones from the hulk came out. Another flight from the Orca nearby. We never even got to his armor. It was fantastic. We offered 'gf's in local and watched our cats explode while the hulk didn't miss a cycle. The guy was at the keyboard, knew we were coming, and had a plan to beat us. That guy was neither weak nor incompetant.

You can adapt to the losses, or blame the other guy.


More ganker lies.

You cannot use shield maintenance drones on yourself.

So ... this didn't happen? There was only one flight of drones?

I love it when people make up stories... please continue.


Looked like 2 to me. Maybe it was only one. I only had 20secs to find out before it all ended hilariously.


So... you cannot tell the difference between 4 and 8 or 5 and 10.

Cool... very competent. Bullshit.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#416 - 2013-09-19 17:11:43 UTC
You seem kind of angry. Would you like to talk it out? Lady Areola Fappington has a teddybear we could use to roleplay some scenes.. work on your issues.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."
Renault T'Bonin
Doomheim
#417 - 2013-09-19 17:17:14 UTC
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
You seem kind of angry. Would you like to talk it out? Lady Areola Fappington has a teddybear we could use to roleplay some scenes.. work on your issues.


I'm not angry at all. Amused yes.

Not angry.

After all... you were busted. That is very funny.
Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#418 - 2013-09-19 17:20:37 UTC
Jonah Gravenstein wrote:

I've been known to gank on one account, and alt tab to mine with a Procuror during GCC cooldown on another.
It's a win/win situation, I get to impose extra costs onto my competitors, and sell stuff to people who may otherwise have bought it from the person that just exploded.


Oh, you're mining in high sec too? How lame.
Ezslider
Blackwater USA Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#419 - 2013-09-19 17:23:42 UTC
Renault T'Bonin wrote:


I love it when people make up stories... please continue.


Yes I do too, you are very good at spinning yarn. Actually you are just at the cusp of Trolling.
Malcolm Shinhwa
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#420 - 2013-09-19 17:25:39 UTC
Renault T'Bonin wrote:
Malcolm Shinhwa wrote:
You seem kind of angry. Would you like to talk it out? Lady Areola Fappington has a teddybear we could use to roleplay some scenes.. work on your issues.


I'm not angry at all. Amused yes.

Not angry.

After all... you were busted. That is very funny.


I don't feel busted. I feel like a guy who saw a bunch of shield maint bots and who lost a gank on a hulk. The point of the story is miners can protect themselves. They don't. But that isn't my fault or CCPs fault. Its theirs. Ganking doesn't make me a bully any more than it makes the miners weak. If they're weak, they choose to be so.

[i]"The purpose of fighting is to win. There is no possible victory in defense. The sword is more important than the shield and skill is more important than either. The final weapon is the brain. All else is supplemental[/i]."