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Derrick Diggler
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#1 - 2013-09-17 04:30:56 UTC
Hiya
I was just wondering if anyone has spent some time working on Astarte since the changes? I am interested in PVE application of the said ship :).
I have had horrid luck actually finding any advice on it, so if i have failed to find it i do apologise.
Thank you for any help.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#2 - 2013-09-17 05:00:14 UTC
Missions or what?

Mission might look like this:

[Astarte, mishin rails]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Corelum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Exploration might look like this:

[Astarte, explo rails]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Corpum B-Type Energized Thermic Membrane
Corpum B-Type Energized Kinetic Membrane
Corelum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Scan Rangefinding Array I

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Improved Cloaking Device II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Before the changes I played with something that would now look like this on L4s just for fun:

[Astarte, mishin]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Corelum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Republic Fleet 10MN Microwarpdrive
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

So. There are some options....
Crellion
Nano Rhinos
PURPLE HELMETED WARRIORS
#3 - 2013-09-17 07:26:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Crellion
Just to compliment the above post with (a) check if you can use nos to get some cap in pve and (b) whatever you do this ship is designed for niche pvp applications (now more than ever) and it will never come close to top pve choices (same as ever) availa ble for a fraction of the training.

EDIT: In other news Eos is now good at missions with sentries.
Derrick Diggler
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#4 - 2013-09-17 11:54:36 UTC
Exactly what I was looking for. Thank you very much.
Aesheera
Doomheim
#5 - 2013-09-19 14:56:40 UTC
Zhilia Mann wrote:
Missions or what?

Mission might look like this:

[Astarte, mishin rails]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Corelum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Experimental 10MN Afterburner I
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Cap Recharger II

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Exploration might look like this:

[Astarte, explo rails]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Corpum B-Type Energized Thermic Membrane
Corpum B-Type Energized Kinetic Membrane
Corelum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Republic Fleet 10MN Afterburner
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Scan Rangefinding Array I

250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Improved Cloaking Device II
Sisters Core Probe Launcher, Sisters Core Scanner Probe

Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit II

Before the changes I played with something that would now look like this on L4s just for fun:

[Astarte, mishin]
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Armor Thermic Hardener II
Armor Kinetic Hardener II
Corelum B-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Republic Fleet 10MN Microwarpdrive
Federation Navy Stasis Webifier
Medium Capacitor Booster II, Cap Booster 400
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script

Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
Heavy Neutron Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge M
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Medium Hybrid Collision Accelerator II
Medium Capacitor Control Circuit I

So. There are some options....

Faction everywhere.

Useful.

- I think my passion is misinterpreted as anger sometimes. And I don't think people are ready for the message that I'm delivering, and delivering with a sense of violent love.
Zhilia Mann
Tide Way Out Productions
#6 - 2013-09-19 15:25:48 UTC
Aesheera wrote:
Useful.


They're PvE fits. Take them or leave them. I tested a blaster-fit Astarte in missions with almost all T2 (I think I bothered to upgrade the damage mods but that was it) and it did alright. But it could have done better with better mods.

But fair enough; for L4s, downgrade where appropriate. I wouldn't do so on the exploration fit though; if that thing doesn't pay for itself in five sites you're running the wrong sites with it.
Derrick Diggler
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#7 - 2013-09-19 22:49:43 UTC
I take it as ... guidelines of what i can afford and what i can fit.
And again, it was exactly what i was looking for. :)
The Spod
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#8 - 2013-09-20 08:24:59 UTC
Pretty good fits above. Take it to next level by fitting burst aerator II (stacking bypass) and fourth magstab. It's quite good then, 1k dps rails with plants iirc.
Derrick Diggler
Eternity INC.
Goonswarm Federation
#9 - 2013-09-26 13:12:20 UTC
Do you not think that with 4th stab the loss of tank would outweigh the benefit of added dps after all the diminishing bonus thing ?
Bertrand Butler
Cras es Noster
#10 - 2013-09-26 13:31:39 UTC  |  Edited by: Bertrand Butler
It really depends on the faction you are fighting against. For npcs that fire into the Astartes T2 resists, you can easily go for a 2 slot tank (repper and EANM) and use the low for a fourth magstab, a TE or even a DDA if you tend to use hammers/hobs a lot.

If not, you fit 3 magstabs, a 3 slot tank and go for a T2 collision accelerator as well as a aux nano pump for the rigs.

For absolute max gank (without getting ******** with the stacking penalties), use the below setup.

[Astarte, L4 Astarte]

Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Federation Navy Magnetic Field Stabilizer
Magnetic Field Stabilizer II
True Sansha Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
Corelum C-Type Medium Armor Repairer

Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Tracking Computer II, Optimal Range Script
Large Capacitor Battery II
10MN Afterburner II

250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
250mm Railgun II, Federation Navy Antimatter Charge M
Small Tractor Beam II
Salvager II

Medium Auxiliary Nano Pump I
Medium Hybrid Burst Aerator II

Hobgoblin II x5
Hammerhead II x5

You get 587/690 DPS from spike @max distance, 1012/1190 from antim @23+37 and a max (paper) DPS output of 1185/1366 at short ranges. Thats on par with some battleships, but you'll still run L4 faster with them. What you gain in tracking and damage application with med rails..you lose in range. But for missioning in style, almost all new CSs are very nice...C: