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the reason behind AFK gameplay

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Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#1 - 2013-09-16 17:05:33 UTC
so I decided to watch some movies and let eve run in the background, basically becoming one of those afk cloakers

why did it happen? jumping into nullsec it seems every time I enter a system people tend to dockup and hide

the problem is local, because of local you have two players not beeing able to play the game, the one who mines or does some ratting hides and docksup and and if you stay even logsoff, on the other hand the cloaker needs to wait and therefore goes afk to maybe have the other player go on and maybe catch him if he thinks hes afk

by removing local you get two things, 2 players actually keep playing the game instead of leaving it, the miner will only mine with support or think about other ways to prevent the cloaked player, and the cloaked player can just go on and try to ambush

you want people actually play the game and get ingame solutions, then remove local, you want the people to leave the game, then you keep local

your decision CCP
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#2 - 2013-09-16 17:08:20 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
jumping into nullsec it seems every time I enter a system people tend to dockup and hide


VFK remained pretty busy despite you entering local, possibly because we don't take you seriously.

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Miku Yumi
Emergency Medical Assistance Unit
#3 - 2013-09-16 17:10:11 UTC
please dont shoot my cyno
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#4 - 2013-09-16 17:10:36 UTC
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
jumping into nullsec it seems every time I enter a system people tend to dockup and hide


VFK remained pretty busy despite you entering local, possibly because we don't take you seriously.


you don't mine in VFK.... I need to tell you as a non goon, pretty sad

something more you want to know about your alliance?
Mallak Azaria
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-09-16 17:13:35 UTC  |  Edited by: Mallak Azaria
Harry Forever wrote:
Mallak Azaria wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:
jumping into nullsec it seems every time I enter a system people tend to dockup and hide


VFK remained pretty busy despite you entering local, possibly because we don't take you seriously.


you don't mine in VFK.... I need to tell you as a non goon, pretty sad

something more you want to know about your alliance?


They don't take you seriously?

It's pretty silly to expect someone to mine in literally every system, even when that system isn't upgraded for mining.

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Tollen Gallen
Glory of Reprisal Enterprise
#6 - 2013-09-16 17:20:30 UTC
Posting in a "i want CCP to make it easier for me to Gank miners" thread.

Harry Forever wrote:
so I decided to watch some movies and let eve run in the background, basically becoming one of those afk cloakers

why did it happen? jumping into nullsec it seems every time I enter a system people tend to dockup and hide

the problem is local, because of local you have two players not beeing able to play the game, the one who mines or does some ratting hides and docksup and and if you stay even logsoff, on the other hand the cloaker needs to wait and therefore goes afk to maybe have the other player go on and maybe catch him if he thinks hes afk

by removing local you get two things, 2 players actually keep playing the game instead of leaving it, the miner will only mine with support or think about other ways to prevent the cloaked player, and the cloaked player can just go on and try to ambush

you want people actually play the game and get ingame solutions, then remove local, you want the people to leave the game, then you keep local

your decision CCP



Both players have paid already.. its their choice whether they remain at the KB or logged in...

Removing Local chat may not be that easy.. and has no doubt been suggested many times before..

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Victoria Sin
Doomheim
#7 - 2013-09-16 17:24:07 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:
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why did it happen? jumping into nullsec it seems every time I enter a system people tend to dockup and hide


Yea, you don't mine, or rat, do you. Ever. How many other players do you think should be on standby to protect that one miner mining in a venture (yea, people drop them just for the lolz)? 10? 100? 1,000? You don't know who's going to bridge what on top of you.

If you want to play without local, go to WH space.

End of discussion.
Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#8 - 2013-09-16 17:24:54 UTC
Finally, Harry's Agenda is revealed.

I actually agree with it!!!

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.

Leafar Nightfall
Silent Owls
#9 - 2013-09-16 17:29:24 UTC
CCP nobody plays the game anymore because they are too frightened byHarry showing up in local

you want people actually play the game and get ingame solutions, then remove Harry, you want the people to leave the game, then you keep Harry

your decision CCP
Harry Forever
Pandemic Horde Inc.
Pandemic Horde
#10 - 2013-09-16 17:34:13 UTC  |  Edited by: Harry Forever
local is **** anyway, people keep trashtalking to you way too much if you are in their system, often it feels the main fight is in the chatbox...

you want more spacefights? remove local

you want some pussys chatting? keep local
Jenn aSide
Soul Machines
The Initiative.
#11 - 2013-09-16 17:38:05 UTC
Harry Forever wrote:

you want more spacefights? then remove local


I honestly don't know why people believe this. We have an part of EVE space with no local. It STILL has the lowest population (by far) of any part of the game.

You want this for the rest of the game?



Icarus Able
Refuse.Resist
#12 - 2013-09-16 17:41:24 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

you want more spacefights? then remove local


I honestly don't know why people believe this. We have an part of EVE space with no local. It STILL has the lowest population (by far) of any part of the game.

You want this for the rest of the game?






Really? you can go 40 jumps through Nullsec and not find a single person. Try doing that in WH space.


Harry well done your use of the search function is astounding.
Mr Ignitious
Lifeline Industries
#13 - 2013-09-16 17:46:51 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

you want more spacefights? then remove local


I honestly don't know why people believe this. We have an part of EVE space with no local. It STILL has the lowest population (by far) of any part of the game.

You want this for the rest of the game?





You think LOCAL is the limiting factor of Wspace population? The reason Wspace has the lowest population (and is still actually very populated, considering probably 1/3 the holes have towers in them) is because most players are too lazy to learn how to scan.

Removing local in nullsec would be a huge buff to roaming gangs of all sizes and types. People would actually have to use their intel channels.
whysoserios Andrard
DJ Khaled Multiverse Wormhole Limited Company.org
#14 - 2013-09-16 17:51:10 UTC
As a bomber pilot myself i would still not agree with this. even though it would help me personally i think for the game as a whole it would just make it pointless .

High sec - no worry's apart from wars

low sec - tactical spots to fight with or without npc gates support

null sec - Fight anywhere with only your fleet members as support .

wormhole - no local no chance



i would recommend you to go to worm hole if local bothers you that much or learn how to catch these people quicker




P.S fapping is aloud in any local

I am the guy camping your gates and killing your renters in your system in your regions. 

Fighting is not mandatory but if you don't it will make me killing you easier.

Baggo Hammers
#15 - 2013-09-16 17:51:27 UTC
You want no local go to WH space.

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.

Caviar Liberta
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#16 - 2013-09-16 17:57:40 UTC
Jenn aSide wrote:
Harry Forever wrote:

you want more spacefights? then remove local


I honestly don't know why people believe this. We have an part of EVE space with no local. It STILL has the lowest population (by far) of any part of the game.

You want this for the rest of the game?





Local is essential for fights. I'm flying to get into an approriate ship for a roam I'm trying to join. I jump the gate and look at my overview (ohh a gang here), I report the gang flying (fill in the blank) in x system on y gate. The fleet I'm joining up sends a scout to keep an eye on them till the rest of the fleet catches up.

Removing local means if I have moved on to another system and the scout shows up in x system, he wouldn't know if they had moved on till he arrives to the gate. If the scout jumps into the connecting system. The scout would then have to check d-scan everything in range and try to find the gang in question.

By then they have gotten away and no fight is to be had.
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#17 - 2013-09-16 18:10:28 UTC
I really don't know what to think of local.

it's a zero-effort instantaneous intel tool. that, in itself, means that's extremely valuable, but it's also extremely bad.

on the pro-local side, I can agree with the safety feature it gives since it pretty much allows for a safety net for the locals to dock/safe up. I can see that, since I used it like so.

on the anti-local side, I can agree that it gives too much intel, making it an unnecessary barrier for sneak attacks. I can see that since I was hindered by it too.



it's hard to have a middle point here, when everybody that did pretty much roam and pve in null has suffered both sides of the coin.

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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
#18 - 2013-09-16 18:38:10 UTC
If there's one thing we can always count on here in the EVE-O forums, it's Harry popping in to rehash some tired topic yet still managing to stir up the local rabble.

Hats off to you,sir.

Mr Epeen Cool
Grimpak
Aliastra
Gallente Federation
#19 - 2013-09-16 18:40:19 UTC
Mr Epeen wrote:
If there's one thing we can always count on here in the EVE-O forums, it's Harry popping in to rehash some tired topic yet still managing to stir up the local rabble.

Hats off to you,sir.

Mr Epeen Cool

meh, AFK cloaking threads are always fun to stir.

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Bagrat Skalski
Koinuun Kotei
#20 - 2013-09-16 20:07:06 UTC  |  Edited by: Bagrat Skalski
Go afk cloaking in wormhole if you must do it without local.
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