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Am I allowed to do this (two accounts)?

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Laertes Ansari
Perkone
Caldari State
#1 - 2013-09-16 04:41:31 UTC  |  Edited by: Laertes Ansari
Hello! I really do not wish to get banned after my first three days Sad I will attempt to make this as succinct as possible. Bullet points, go!

- Took up someone's offer and am currently on my first 21 day trial (love the game, thus far).
- Messed up quite a bit, but also learned what I did wrong.
- Was hoping to simply make a new account and get a better/'correct' head start.
- Would only do this once. My general rule of thumb is one game, one account. No alternates for me.
- After making the new account I would permanently delete this one.

Now comes the "legality" issues:

- 1 day into free trial, friend offered to let me use his 21 day trial and mentioned the perks of the Buddy program.
- Friend stated he would take the PLEX, sell it, and split the profits (maybe a little something extra if I joined his corp).
- Just recently found out about the 3-month subscription special offer with the 'Starter Pack.'

My idea:

- Use ~18 days to only mine and make ISK on this trial (gives me some breathing room just in case).
- Take up friend's offer, use his 21 day trial, and immediately subscribe by buying the special offer.
- I start off with both the Starter Pack, a decent amount of ISK to get me started, and the knowledge to not screw up right out of the starting gate.

If I ever saw CCP Falcon's character in real life I think I'd politely ask him to kick my ass just so I could brag about it.

GreenSeed
#2 - 2013-09-16 04:52:35 UTC
no, because of something ToS related i forgot the details about, but its all the rage lately.
Laertes Ansari
Perkone
Caldari State
#3 - 2013-09-16 05:00:35 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
no, because of something ToS related i forgot the details about, but its all the rage lately.
I do not wish to sound rude, but you answered before I even asked my question What?

If you have any information about what you posted, though, I'd love to read about it, just in case.

If I ever saw CCP Falcon's character in real life I think I'd politely ask him to kick my ass just so I could brag about it.

GreenSeed
#4 - 2013-09-16 05:10:49 UTC
i answered to your original thread using an alt to represent a main, it seems you cant do that anymore. but so long as you don't do that to scam others it seems its fine.

now as far as the trials questions, you can get one or the other, not both. and once you start a trial you can't upgrade to the other.

so if you start the 18 day one, you cant switch to the 21 day one. and you cant add the 21 days to the 18 to get 29 days.
John Bosch
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#5 - 2013-09-16 05:12:02 UTC  |  Edited by: John Bosch
As long as you're creating another account, just like someone who uses multiple accounts, I don't think you'll have a problem with CCP. Just don't expect to use more than one trial period on the same account.
Laertes Ansari
Perkone
Caldari State
#6 - 2013-09-16 05:17:34 UTC  |  Edited by: Laertes Ansari
GreenSeed wrote:
i answered to your original thread using an alt to represent a main, it seems you cant do that anymore. but so long as you don't do that to scam others it seems its fine.

now as far as the trials questions, you can get one or the other, not both. and once you start a trial you can't upgrade to the other.

so if you start the 18 day one, you cant switch to the 21 day one. and you cant add the 21 days to the 18 to get 29 days.
I would only use one free trial on each account. I meant that, once I use my friend's 21 day trial, I would sub and those 21 days would be added to the 30 day subscription.

Also, this game isn't about space, ships, and big battles. That's like saying The Walking Dead is about zombies. This game has the unique characteristic of translating my morals from reality to in-game. Scamming, being an all-around a-hole noob baiter, or even being a pirate? Not even close to being my 'thing.'

If I ever saw CCP Falcon's character in real life I think I'd politely ask him to kick my ass just so I could brag about it.

John Bosch
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
#7 - 2013-09-16 05:19:32 UTC
I'm pretty sure when you sub, you lose your trial period. So don't sub until your trial period is over.
TheBadMan
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
#8 - 2013-09-16 05:20:08 UTC
Starting alt accounts by buddying yourself a trial account is probably the most common method people use to start alt accounts.
So to answer your question yes it is okay you can have multiple trial accounts and sub whichever ones you want to.
Laertes Ansari
Perkone
Caldari State
#9 - 2013-09-16 05:27:40 UTC
John Bosch wrote:
I'm pretty sure when you sub, you lose your trial period. So don't sub until your trial period is over.
I'll have to look it up, but Rookie Chat/Help was abuzz with this question and I kept seeing the same answer: whatever is left on your trial period will be added to your first 30-day PLEX. Thank you for the help, though!

TheBadMan wrote:
Starting alt accounts by buddying yourself a trial account is probably the most common method people use to start alt accounts.
So to answer your question yes it is okay you can have multiple trial accounts and sub whichever ones you want to.
Yea, except I think the waiting period is 6 months (unless that's only for subbed accounts), but I'd rather just delete the first account I made and focus on the one I'm going to make (my 'real' one). If I want to later down the road I could always make a 2nd character on that account.

Also, Goonwaffe? I'm pretty sure Goon were responsible for most of the EVE-related stories I've seen over the past few years (what initially got me interested in the game). While I have many short term goals to pick at for the next few months I set one ultimate goal; one that seemed impossible, but gives me that reason to carry on: to exterminate teh Goon! Twisted

If I ever saw CCP Falcon's character in real life I think I'd politely ask him to kick my ass just so I could brag about it.

GreenSeed
#10 - 2013-09-16 05:28:36 UTC
ok, let me see if i understand, you will use up the trial on this account, then open a new account with your friends trial and move the goods you made with the first account?

there's no problem with that, just keep in mind that your "rate of acquisition" of "stuff" via missions, mining or trading will be very small as a newbie so there wont be much to pass on to the main account. specially because trial accounts have restrictions on them. (some skills can't be trained)

also, don't do anything illegal like shooting at other people. if the trial account goes inactive with a negative sec status and the same IP has another account active CCP will get angry.

but since you don't want to get into trouble you shouldn't worry about that.


btw, you don't have to wait till the trial period ends to subscribe, the 21 day trial will run in full, before using the subscription time.
Laertes Ansari
Perkone
Caldari State
#11 - 2013-09-16 05:37:59 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:
ok, let me see if i understand, you will use up the trial on this account, then open a new account with your friends trial and move the goods you made with the first account?

there's no problem with that, just keep in mind that your "rate of acquisition" of "stuff" via missions, mining or trading will be very small as a newbie so there wont be much to pass on to the main account. specially because trial accounts have restrictions on them. (some skills can't be trained)

also, don't do anything illegal like shooting at other people. if the trial account goes inactive with a negative sec status and the same IP has another account active CCP will get angry.

but since you don't want to get into trouble you shouldn't worry about that.


btw, you don't have to wait till the trial period ends to subscribe, the 21 day trial will run in full, before using the subscription time.
Correct, sir. And indeed, I know that. I know it may sound odd, but I don't want to 'waste' any equipment, ships, or ISK from this account. Figure I could give my corporation all of my ships for practicing with and transfer any ISK to my new account.

And you are also correct on that front, as well. I wish no ill upon any players, new or old. I didn't even think about that until you mentioned it because I wouldn't have thought about it on my own, lol.

If I ever saw CCP Falcon's character in real life I think I'd politely ask him to kick my ass just so I could brag about it.

GreenSeed
#12 - 2013-09-16 05:38:51 UTC
John Bosch wrote:
I'm pretty sure when you sub, you lose your trial period. So don't sub until your trial period is over.


nope.

source:
http://i.imgur.com/w6WWNAG.jpg

as you can see the trial, which was 14 days back then, started the 17th, the sign up was on the 21st (4 trial days used), and the next billing was on the 31st. that's 40 days between billings. the 10 left on the trial, and the 30 on the first billing along with the sign up.

btw... just noticed tomorrow is my birthday, i expect presents. Pirate
NightCrawler 85
Phoibe Enterprises
#13 - 2013-09-16 05:58:09 UTC
GreenSeed wrote:

also, don't do anything illegal like shooting at other people. if the trial account goes inactive with a negative sec status and the same IP has another account active CCP will get angry.


I will admit i have no idea what your talking about here.
Shooting other people will not get you into trouble unless your trying to trick new players into fights. If the OP decides to gank someone because they run around in a t1 frig with 10 PLEX's in its cargo he is not breaking any rules. He dosent even need a reason, he can shoot at people because he feels like it and CCP will not care and he will not get into trouble because he has a low sec status.
Please correct me if there is some rule im missing, because if i am i would like to know in case a question like this comes up again Smile

To the OP.
The only problem you might run into with what you have in mind is that im pretty sure trial accounts cant not send ISK to another player, so you will have to find some other way to get the ISK to your new main.
What you could do (as far as i know) is to save up the ISK on your current character, and right before the time runs out use that ISK to buy a ship or item that will cost you more or less everything you have.
Then trade said ship to a friend or a person you trust (trial accounts can do direct trades, but not contracts or trade ISK as far as i know) and then hope said friend will keep up his/hers end up the deal and trade the item(s) to your new character.
The reason you have to rely on a friend for this is that your not allowed to run a trial account and a paid account at the same time (might be some way around this).

Or, buy said ship/module, warp to a moon or planet in a quiet system and jettison the item/eject from the ship, log in your new main who should already be placed there and just pick it up. Please note that if you jettison it your new character will be flagged so dock up until the timer is gone.

Good luck Smile
Laertes Ansari
Perkone
Caldari State
#14 - 2013-09-16 06:15:05 UTC
Nightcrawler, I've seen someone noob baiting just outside of the Kisogo State War Academy, but I wasn't sure whether that was a reportable offense. He turned his safety status to the middle one (he was orange with a flashing skull), noobs would shoot him, and then he'd destroy them because CONCORD doesn't interfere with those situations. I actually remember his name because it was related to Mass Effect, lol.

And you are correct that trial accounts cannot transfer ISK. While I marvel at the ideas you listed, I prefer my approach. I'll go to an unpopulated system and use the market. With my first account I'll sell my 1 Tritanium, buy it with the second account and immediately sell it again, and then use all of my ISK on my first account to buy the Tritanium, thus transferring my ISK from one account to the other (while both accounts are in their free trials, as well).

:)

If I ever saw CCP Falcon's character in real life I think I'd politely ask him to kick my ass just so I could brag about it.

CCP Sunset
C C P
C C P Alliance
#15 - 2013-09-16 09:56:59 UTC
Just a few tips for you:

* It is fine to have more than 1 account, you can use the same email address on multiple accounts.
* You must use the link provided by your friend or the link in the Buddy invitation email to take advantage of the 21 day Buddy trial. It is important that you are logged out of any existing account when you follow the link.
* Many offers cannot be combined with the Buddy Program, they will not appear in Account Management for you, so please check what is available before you count on combining offers in this way.
* Check out the terms and conditions of the Buddy Program, these are linked in the invitation, the page where you create your trial, and from your Account Management page. Some payment methods are not eligible for your friend to receive a reward, or might have restricted rewards (such as not eligible for PLEX) .
* When you upgrade your trial you will NOT lose any remaining trial days, these are added to your total subscription time.

I hope this helps, and that I didn't miss your actual question Blink If in doubt it is a good idea to file a support ticket (press F12 in-game, create from the website or by email to support@eveonline.com) and ask a billing GM for advice on your specific case.

European Associate Sales Specialist, Presenter: EVE TV, tea enthusiast.

ChromeStriker
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
#16 - 2013-09-16 10:22:10 UTC
CCP Sunset wrote:
Just a few tips for you:

* It is fine to have more than 1 account, you can use the same email address on multiple accounts.
* You must use the link provided by your friend or the link in the Buddy invitation email to take advantage of the 21 day Buddy trial. It is important that you are logged out of any existing account when you follow the link.
* Many offers cannot be combined with the Buddy Program, they will not appear in Account Management for you, so please check what is available before you count on combining offers in this way.
* Check out the terms and conditions of the Buddy Program, these are linked in the invitation, the page where you create your trial, and from your Account Management page. Some payment methods are not eligible for your friend to receive a reward, or might have restricted rewards (such as not eligible for PLEX) .
* When you upgrade your trial you will NOT lose any remaining trial days, these are added to your total subscription time.

I hope this helps, and that I didn't miss your actual question Blink If in doubt it is a good idea to file a support ticket (press F12 in-game, create from the website or by email to support@eveonline.com) and ask a billing GM for advice on your specific case.


Nice to see you Forum'ing Sunset Big smile

No Worries

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#17 - 2013-09-16 11:15:15 UTC
Laertes Ansari wrote:
Hello! I really do not wish to get banned after my first three days Sad I will attempt to make this as succinct as possible. Bullet points, go!

- Took up someone's offer and am currently on my first 21 day trial (love the game, thus far).
- Messed up quite a bit, but also learned what I did wrong.
- Was hoping to simply make a new account and get a better/'correct' head start.
- Would only do this once. My general rule of thumb is one game, one account. No alternates for me.
- After making the new account I would permanently delete this one.

Now comes the "legality" issues:

- 1 day into free trial, friend offered to let me use his 21 day trial and mentioned the perks of the Buddy program.
- Friend stated he would take the PLEX, sell it, and split the profits (maybe a little something extra if I joined his corp).
- Just recently found out about the 3-month subscription special offer with the 'Starter Pack.'

My idea:

- Use ~18 days to only mine and make ISK on this trial (gives me some breathing room just in case).
- Take up friend's offer, use his 21 day trial, and immediately subscribe by buying the special offer.
- I start off with both the Starter Pack, a decent amount of ISK to get me started, and the knowledge to not screw up right out of the starting gate.



You're about to get another lesson about Eve: never trust anyone and between all betrayers you might find in this game, your true RL friends will most probably be the ones leading the first strike Lol

Welcome to Eve Twisted

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Lors Dornick
Kallisti Industries
#18 - 2013-09-16 12:33:01 UTC
Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:


You're about to get another lesson about Eve: never trust anyone and between all betrayers you might find in this game, your true RL friends will most probably be the ones leading the first strike Lol

Welcome to Eve Twisted

RL friends? Hah, I don't even trust my own alts.

But the old adage "don't trust anyone in EvE" comes with a twist.

Trust is a valuable and profitable commodity in Eve.

Knowing who you can trust, and to what extent, is an central part of the game.

CCP Greyscale: As to starbases, we agree it's pretty terrible, but we don't want to delay the entire release just for this one factor.

Eram Fidard
Doomheim
#19 - 2013-09-16 16:55:46 UTC
I know it seems like you're 'wasting' stuff by not using the few million you might make during trial. But honestly, it's not worth the effort.

You could sneeze that amount of isk in 20 minutes after 2 months of dedicated training. Less, if you're content to salvage vs. killing.

Focus your energies on having fun, learning the game, and joining a group that can provide help/advice. Whatever you do, don't get into the 'game' of 'wallets online'

Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages.

Iamsamsara
Federal Navy Academy
Gallente Federation
#20 - 2013-09-16 17:10:43 UTC
You will not be able to send any isk from the trial account or create any contracts, keep that in mind when thinking you are going to send everything to the new character
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