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Quantshure
#1 - 2013-09-13 13:13:43 UTC
Hello

Looking for a small ship that is good at escaping gate camps but has >= 1000km3 cargo space.

Any race will do, any suggestions?

Phil
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#2 - 2013-09-13 13:17:41 UTC
>1 000 000 m3 (1000k m3)? or > 1000m3

If the latter, look at the blockade runners/
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Quantshure
#3 - 2013-09-13 13:22:21 UTC
1000m3 sorry
Elena Thiesant
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#4 - 2013-09-13 13:28:13 UTC
Then look at the blockade runners. Each race has one, they're T2 industrials that can fit covert ops cloaking devices. They all have over 1000m3 cargo hold, that's before any fittings.
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Marc Callan
Center for Advanced Studies
Gallente Federation
#5 - 2013-09-13 13:45:54 UTC
The blockade runners, in addition to their covert ops cloaks, are agile and faster in warp than anything short of a covops frigate or a fleet interceptor. All four will meet your requirements of 1000-plus cubic meters of storage, even with a warp core stabilizer and one or two nanofiber hull modules, and a couple of them can be rigged and fitted to carry over 10,000 cubic meters, enough to carry a packaged ("flat-packed") cruiser and fittings in its hold.

"We are what we pretend to be, so we must be careful about what we pretend to be." - Kurt Vonnegurt
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Quantshure
#6 - 2013-09-13 14:26:59 UTC
Thanks,

Looks like I have yet more skills to train.....
Pete the Snake
Comet Cowboys
#7 - 2013-09-14 10:42:09 UTC
[Magnate, Mini-Prorator]
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II
Expanded Cargohold II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
[empty med slot]
[empty med slot]

Improved Cloaking Device II
[empty high slot]
[empty high slot]

Small Cargohold Optimization I
Small Cargohold Optimization I
Small Cargohold Optimization I

1260m3 cargo / 5 sec warp out time

Use the cloak + mwd align trick to insta-warp away from gatecamps. Fit empty mids and highs to taste. Drop the nano for extra cargo and you can still cloak + mwd align if your Nav skills are good enough.
Kosetzu
The Black Crow Bandits
Northern Coalition.
#8 - 2013-09-14 14:08:03 UTC
Pete the Snake wrote:
[Magnate Fit]
1260m3 cargo / 5 sec warp out time

Use the cloak + mwd align trick to insta-warp away from gatecamps. Fit empty mids and highs to taste. Drop the nano for extra cargo and you can still cloak + mwd align if your Nav skills are good enough.

Except people can scan your cargo in those. Blockade Runners are immune to being cargo scanned, which can be handy.
Kery Nysell
#9 - 2013-09-14 16:04:26 UTC
Kosetzu wrote:
Except people can scan your cargo in those. Blockade Runners are immune to being cargo scanned, which can be handy.


That nifty ability also paints a giant target on Blockade Runners for gankers : always pop it, you never know what will drop !

But then, if you're awake and halfway competent, a Blockade Runner should never be seen ... it all falls down to the piloting skills of the player.

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Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#10 - 2013-09-14 16:17:56 UTC
Kosetzu wrote:
Pete the Snake wrote:
[Magnate Fit]
1260m3 cargo / 5 sec warp out time

Use the cloak + mwd align trick to insta-warp away from gatecamps. Fit empty mids and highs to taste. Drop the nano for extra cargo and you can still cloak + mwd align if your Nav skills are good enough.

Except people can scan your cargo in those. Blockade Runners are immune to being cargo scanned, which can be handy.


How again is it handy? Cargo scan immunity on BR remains one of the dumbest additions ever. I would love to see it go. It is completely worthless on a blockade runner and makes them worse.
Baggo Hammers
#11 - 2013-09-14 16:56:32 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Kosetzu wrote:
Pete the Snake wrote:
[Magnate Fit]
1260m3 cargo / 5 sec warp out time

Use the cloak + mwd align trick to insta-warp away from gatecamps. Fit empty mids and highs to taste. Drop the nano for extra cargo and you can still cloak + mwd align if your Nav skills are good enough.

Except people can scan your cargo in those. Blockade Runners are immune to being cargo scanned, which can be handy.


How again is it handy? Cargo scan immunity on BR remains one of the dumbest additions ever. I would love to see it go. It is completely worthless on a blockade runner and makes them worse.



It is also redundant as BRs should be invisible when used.

If you don't know where you're going, any road will take you there.
IIshira
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
#12 - 2013-09-14 17:31:21 UTC
Baggo Hammers wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Kosetzu wrote:
Pete the Snake wrote:
[Magnate Fit]
1260m3 cargo / 5 sec warp out time

Use the cloak + mwd align trick to insta-warp away from gatecamps. Fit empty mids and highs to taste. Drop the nano for extra cargo and you can still cloak + mwd align if your Nav skills are good enough.

Except people can scan your cargo in those. Blockade Runners are immune to being cargo scanned, which can be handy.


How again is it handy? Cargo scan immunity on BR remains one of the dumbest additions ever. I would love to see it go. It is completely worthless on a blockade runner and makes them worse.



It is also redundant as BRs should be invisible when used.


And if you're in lowsec or nullsec I don't think anyone will bother scanning you down to decide if they want to kill you LOL
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#13 - 2013-09-14 20:22:57 UTC
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Kosetzu wrote:
Pete the Snake wrote:
[Magnate Fit]
1260m3 cargo / 5 sec warp out time

Use the cloak + mwd align trick to insta-warp away from gatecamps. Fit empty mids and highs to taste. Drop the nano for extra cargo and you can still cloak + mwd align if your Nav skills are good enough.

Except people can scan your cargo in those. Blockade Runners are immune to being cargo scanned, which can be handy.


How again is it handy? Cargo scan immunity on BR remains one of the dumbest additions ever. I would love to see it go. It is completely worthless on a blockade runner and makes them worse.


"You're not playing how I want you to so lets change the game to suit no one."

Smuggling is almost completely broken, remove this and it will be. There is a 1000ms delay before you can cloak, and the NPC's can use this time to scan you just fine.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Derath Ellecon
University of Caille
Gallente Federation
#14 - 2013-09-14 22:07:45 UTC
Cipher Jones wrote:
Derath Ellecon wrote:
Kosetzu wrote:
Pete the Snake wrote:
[Magnate Fit]
1260m3 cargo / 5 sec warp out time

Use the cloak + mwd align trick to insta-warp away from gatecamps. Fit empty mids and highs to taste. Drop the nano for extra cargo and you can still cloak + mwd align if your Nav skills are good enough.

Except people can scan your cargo in those. Blockade Runners are immune to being cargo scanned, which can be handy.


How again is it handy? Cargo scan immunity on BR remains one of the dumbest additions ever. I would love to see it go. It is completely worthless on a blockade runner and makes them worse.


"You're not playing how I want you to so lets change the game to suit no one."

Smuggling is almost completely broken, remove this and it will be. There is a 1000ms delay before you can cloak, and the NPC's can use this time to scan you just fine.



?

Sorry Cipher but your reply doesn't make any sense.
Twylla
The Scope
Gallente Federation
#15 - 2013-09-15 01:33:34 UTC
BR's are fine. Anybody hauling anything of value isn't exactly going to be on autopilot in one of these things. Anyone shooting one in highsec is just doing it for the trollz, so it doesn't really matter what you were carrying.

Short of a lockdown gate camp, there's no problem playing rabbit with these, and you can always just afk cloak and keep the pirates gnawing on the flight stick while you make a sandwich.

The best skill for anyone in a BR is to know how to go in lowsec and troll the pvpers. The whines in local are worth more than isk :)

~Weapons R&D technician, arms manufacturer, weapons dealer, wormhole project manager, nulsec fleet pilot, armored warfare command/mindlink specialist, thanatos pilot, alliance executor, now retired~

I've done everything. NOW GET OFF MY LAWN!
Taoist Dragon
School of Applied Knowledge
#16 - 2013-09-15 04:04:09 UTC
If BR have unscannable cargo can you transport drugs in highsec without them being confiscated?

That is the Way, the Tao.

Balance is everything.
Cipher Jones
The Thomas Edwards Taco Tuesday All Stars
#17 - 2013-09-15 07:44:57 UTC
Quote:
Sorry Cipher but your reply doesn't make any sense.


The police NPC's scan your cargo for contraband and fine you, and kill you if you don't give it up and pay the fine theres also a standings loss with the empire you are in). They can scan you within the 1 second it takes you to cloak. All ships have a 1 second delay. All ships can be scanned except for blockade runners. Ergo, only blockade runners can effectively smuggle. The profession already sucks because its revamp is on CCP's backburner, removing the property will completely break smuggling.

internet spaceships

are serious business sir.

and don't forget it
Kery Nysell
#18 - 2013-09-15 10:03:56 UTC
I thought that the NPC Police could always scan you, no matter the ship you used ?

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