Player Features and Ideas Discussion

About time to stir up some more sleepers, eh? This time, lets bring the fight to their (former) outposts!

The C7 and C8 wormhole systems would feature "Sleeper Assembly Hubs" (or something similar) that were built onto the surface of a moon. These hubs continue to produce sleeper ships, despite their former owners having long-since died, teleported, transcended or whatever.

The C7 and C8 wormhole systems would offer enhanced sites (anoms, data and relic sites) similar to C5/6 systems but with the addition of sleeper capital ships produced at the "Sleeper Assembly Hubs."

In addition, every 36-72 hours (random), the "Sleeper Assembly Hubs" detects the presence of any foreign POS and sends an attack wave to neutralize it. This would comprise of 2 sleeper carriers, 1 sleeper dread, 4-8 BS, and an assortment of cruisers and frigates. That would be 1 wave to 1 POS, not 1 wave to EACH POS.

The result? Small WH corps that try to move in would have their towers reinforced and/or destroyed if they go innactive. Large corps get to enjoy POS defense, MUCH more difficult sites, and the constant worrying of sleeper attacks. We could have sleepers warp randomly to grav and ladar sites as well, after being sent from the "Sleeper Assembly Hubs" , even wormholes, too.

Imagine that, coming home and finding 4 sleepers sitting on the wormhole!

Statics could be anything from a C3-C8, or C5-C8.

It's good for players because it adds a completely new side of WH-life that is already kinda present in LS/null (rats warping around a system and attacking miners).

It's good for CCP because it would increase player losses and be a good source of an isk-sink, countering the isk-faucet of the sleeper sites.

So I can set up a deathstar and once a day, just pull my noctis beyond the forcefield and start salvaging.... I like.

Same thing that happens if players spawn and kill your pos before you come online.

Then they program them as class 11, 12, etc and the players still call them C7, C8, etc.



That's kind of the idea. Risk == Reward. If your POS is set up well, you can probably drive them off if you have a couple POS gunners (as you should).

An afterthought, C7 = 1x "Sleeper Assembly Hubs"
C8 = 3x "Sleeper Assembly Hubs"

So 1 tower in a C8 could get attacked by up to 3 hubs

That's why it's bad.

More isk per hour is not how you present new ideas.

We already know quite a lot about the sleepers.

We really don't, though. From what I gathered via CCP posts, blogs and books..

• The first wormhole was the great rift which allowed humanity to move into New Eden.
• There were no other wormholes until a cataclysmic event caused a planet to explode. Suddenly, there were wormholes.
• The Jovians had some sort of knowledge of the sleepers before this event.
• The sleepers are considered "advanced." However, over 8000 years passed between the Eve gate collapsing and the New Eden that we know today. These "dark ages" resulted in colonies falling back into medieval ages technologically, and forgetting much of what was brought from Earth. Who knows for sure where the sleepers came from, or what happened during that 8000 years.
• Nobody knows what happened to the sleepers' owners, but some lore suggested a biochemical weapon they were developing failed and killed them all.
• The Sansha nation was able to make use of wormholes quickly, and almost immediately began using them to travel the universe. (Yet we never see Sansha ships in wormhole space, hmm...)

I think there's a lot of room to expand on the sleeper lore, as well as drawing in new connections and even more content.

Play eve when you older than 50 is bad idea

I'm glad someone else wants moarrr sleeper content!

I've long thought sleepers need a bit of a re vamp. Tho I always thought it would be better to have the "sleeper home systems" without moons.... So you cannot move in.

Give them normal / a VARIETY OF SITES from c1 - c6 (or alternatively have different class sleeper homes....)

But what's new?

ACCELERATION GATE KEYS FOUND ONLY IN normal WORMHOLE RELIC AND DATA SITES.
.... Yessssss.....

Give wormholer's a TREASURE HUNT/real exploration... Keys would unlock accel gates, and I dunno... Have some hackable cans after the sleepers are dead and give SOME DECENT LOOT - actually.... Awesome loot. Like in FSP's

Scenario..... "Got a sleeper haven key today, think they spawn in the sleeper c3's" ... "oh okey we haven't got a connection to one yet.".. Few days later... "Fred !! Where's your key!! We got a connection.! Lets ride. " - end of scenario :P

- nulli sites can drop tower bp's.... ffs you don't even have to shoot rats in them!.

- off the top of my head.... I do like your idea... But it doesn't add content to the lower class holes

That is all :)

Before we go adding new classes of wormholes I'd like to see current deficiencies corrected. For instance, class 4 systems don't get roaming wormholes and I think they should. Black Hole system effects need to fit in with the rest of the system effects where they give buffs to certain elements that can be useful rather than having a random collection of system effects that no one can use.

Once those are done I'd like to see some more development of the Sleeper backstory and possibly the involvement of the Jovians. Ultimately, I am of the opinion that wormholers, living in the riskiest environment in the frontier of unknown space, should reap the greatest rewards and have the opportunity to access the newest content.